The Purpose for ONLY having 91 Octane in certain states?
Jul 14, 2006, 02:17 PM
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You want the real answer? Here it is in short form.
California sold 92 octane for a long time, but used a blend of oxygenates in order to hit that octane while still meeting the state gov'ts ban on other, more toxic octane improving chemicals. Well, the formula for that blend was owned by one of the gas companies, and they wanted to get paid for it by all the other companies (all your gas comes through one pipe, which is why they all had it in the first place -- it's not until it gets on the trucks that it gets "tailored" to the brand).
Well, the other companies didn't want to pay. So, rather than back down, they didn't allow anyone to use the formula and the octane rating dropped to 91. I have even heard that some testing has show it's not even really 91. :-( Toluene is your friend...
California sold 92 octane for a long time, but used a blend of oxygenates in order to hit that octane while still meeting the state gov'ts ban on other, more toxic octane improving chemicals. Well, the formula for that blend was owned by one of the gas companies, and they wanted to get paid for it by all the other companies (all your gas comes through one pipe, which is why they all had it in the first place -- it's not until it gets on the trucks that it gets "tailored" to the brand).
Well, the other companies didn't want to pay. So, rather than back down, they didn't allow anyone to use the formula and the octane rating dropped to 91. I have even heard that some testing has show it's not even really 91. :-( Toluene is your friend...
Jul 14, 2006, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lil'evil_evo
We only get 91oct here in vegas. I drove across the states in my evo a few years back and I noticed that 93 fell to 91 somewhere in the middle.
I too saw about half way across the country the 93 stopped, which in turn made me get worse gas milage!!
Jul 14, 2006, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by VividRacing.com
AZ is actualy worse off. Its Oxygenated 91. Its a special blend called "Summer blend" which is odd because our winter fuel is normal 91 which is better.. You would think we would get the better fuel in the summer when cars need it!
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from what i understand, ADOT believes that the southwest/west coast needs lower octane gas to help "performance cars" pass emissions which is retarded cuz cars that run higher octane gas perform better/run smoother hence passing emissions. they also figure it would cut down on speeders since 1 would have to fill up more at a higher per gallon price. CA alone has more Porsches than the rest of the country, so they're out to get anyone whose vehicle doesn't look like a baby shoe (SUV) or a sandal (TRUCK)!!!
& AZ drivers need 2 watch their backs cuz of all the CA residents they now have. in due time they will bring their laws over also. they already got Homeowner's Associations (invented by rich CA residents to keep low income housing away) & all the houses look alike...
Jul 14, 2006, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by whitersevo
arizona has one station that sales 101 for 6.23 gallon...
Jul 14, 2006, 11:55 PM
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Also if anyone want s to see what octane they are "REALLY" getting at the pump, call the 1-800# on the pump u r using 2 reach the dept of Weights & Measures...
www.weights.az.gov
www.weights.az.gov
Jul 14, 2006, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by housedj
uhh, no. there are at least 3 high octane stations in the phx area & a few performance shops that carry the happy juice. Union gas on 56th & bell (101) $5.99, In the zone on 44th st & chandler (101) $5.99, & a 76 station @ Scottsdale Pavillions (110 leaded) $8.00, & a well known EVO shop in Mesa sells Sunoco GT Plus 104 unleaded for around $8.00. Dont forget the tracks (Firebird & Speedworld) sell race fuel as well...
uhhh, thnxs
