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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 02:48 AM
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Air is thicker when it is cold !
Air expands when it is hot !
The biggest enemy of turbo engines is hot and dry air.
The humid air actually inhibits detonation since it is a bit like injecting water…
You should see more boost in cold weather than in hot weather.
I guess that also your ignition went backwards so the ECU is using a safer map because of the heat.
I used to see on my WRX that had 16 maps as standard. If after a hard drive I would stop the car without lifting the hood and started it again after a few minutes the ECU would go to a very conservative map. If I kept the hood open and let the Intercooler cool down before driving again the ECU would stay on the same map !
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sesso
air is thicker when its hot. larger molecules equals richer. I seem to boost higher at daytime then night so yeah
nah man I think you got it a little mixed up.. Air is denser when its cold, and less dense when its hot.


I guess what my question is - can this heat affect how well my turbo is spooling? I'm seeing only 1.2 bar of boost when on an '05 I used to see 1.5 bar...



^^ You think my maps are changing to deal with the hot weather? Anyone else with some experience in this chime in? That sounds like it could be the problem but I wouldn't expect 100+ degree weather outside to mess too much with an engine that runs hotter than that... Thoughts?
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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You will not see boost loss that great due to wether in any case. It might be 1 psi less or so, but not 4-5 like you said.If you think with 1.2 >> 1 PSI your car is still faster than your 8 with 1.5 Bar, then you need to see if your gauge work right. 1.2 droping to 1 PSi will not feel fst at all comparing to 1.5. ( I dynoed mine few years back 12 PSI 215 WHP; 21PSI (~1.5 Bar) 340WHP)
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mikiblueeyes
You will not see boost loss that great due to wether in any case. It might be 1 psi less or so, but not 4-5 like you said.If you think with 1.2 >> 1 PSI your car is still faster than your 8 with 1.5 Bar, then you need to see if your gauge work right. 1.2 droping to 1 PSi will not feel fst at all comparing to 1.5. ( I dynoed mine few years back 12 PSI 215 WHP; 21PSI (~1.5 Bar) 340WHP)

Hmm i suspect the gauge must not be working correctly then... I dont hear anything that sounds like a leak (i.e. no whistling, or pshhh noises) so I might just accept that the boost gauge is off and im not losing any power somewhere.

Hopefully thats just all it is..




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just went for a drive... if I floor it from 1,000 RPM the MAXIMUM boost I saw was 1.3 Maybe I'm just crazy and nobodies 9's are hitting 1.5 bar? (21psi). I know my '05 did, and my 9 feels just a little faster than my '05.

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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DreamLike1
I dont hear anything that sounds like a leak (i.e. no whistling, or pshhh noises)
If it's a small leak, you won't really hear anything like that because the sound of the exaust will cover it. The ONLY true way to tell is to make a boost leak tester and pressurize the system.


Originally Posted by DreamLike1
just went for a drive... if I floor it from 1,000 RPM the MAXIMUM boost I saw was 1.3 Maybe I'm just crazy and nobodies 9's are hitting 1.5 bar? (21psi). I know my '05 did, and my 9 feels just a little faster than my '05.
If you read my posts above, I hit 21psi and then tapers off if I go WOT from under 3500rpms.
I only hit 16 or so if I go WOT from higher rpms.

I have a boost leak tester already made I can let you borrow. You pay shipping to and fro.
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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sounds like i need to do a boost leak test, just installed gauge,around 18psi peak,drops to 15, then tapers off slightly to 13-14up top around 5600-redline.
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