yep, I got them all on streetfire.....

searched up just 50 Trim, get a bunch of videos,

searched 50 Trim EVO, got no hits....

 

Guys, so does anyone sell these 50trims as turbocharger only? I'm planning to build my own headers, and I'm also interested with the 3076R, which is also the HKS GT3037S right? So it spools a little slower, but has huge top end? Will be running w/ 95 or 96 octane only... no plans to use race gas, alky, meth... I'm having the same dilemma right now, but I'd like to save cash by buying the turbocharger only, and how about the 3071R? Would this be a nice choice? Do the ATP guys sell the turbochargers complete w/ all the lines and fittings when I go for the bolt-on stealth option? I'm leaning towards those guys, I'm looking for more than 350whp w/ what I have not: 264/272s, walbro, exhaust, decat, safc, licp upgrade, and a flash that will be done by TTP via email. I'm also concerned about the hotside of those ATP's as being constricting. Is there truth to this when I opt for the 3076R?

 

Whats the difference, if any, between the "BB 50 Trim" and the "DBB 50 Trim" ??

 

None, same thing utilizing Garrett's Dual Ball Bearing Center section. Just differnent names it goes by. The right name is T3/T04E

 

So the TT and AMS 50trim or whatever 50trim is exactly the same turbo charger? Only difference is the center section or they are different in every way? I see AMS 50trim is advertised as 3100 -3600 rpms spool up. My TT 50trim makes full boost at 4500 rpms, what could be the difference?

 

[Many of the Evo vendors like Buschur will probably sell you a Ballbearing 50-Trim. Or you might try a turbo specialty shop like Blouch Turbos, Forced Performance, Precision Turbo & Engine, or Turbochargers.com.

You'd better be real good with at welding and fabrication in general. The clearance vis-a-vis the radiator is pretty tight. You might wanna spend a bit here and avoid a lot of headaches...Shearer and Full Race make the best manifolds.

I think that the HKS 3037S is different than the Garrett 3076/3037. They are not the same animal. I think the HKS one is laggier.

Is your pump gas in the Phillipine Islands rated Research Octane Number(RON)? If so, it is only equivalent to 91-92 octane U.S. gasoline, which is rated Research + Motor/2(R+M/2). If you will only be running strictly on 91-92 (R+M/2) gasoline then you wont be wanting the 3076 or the 3037 and maybe not even the 3071, which only starts to wake up above 26#. Maybe you shoud look at the 50-Trim.

There have been several threads discussing the pros and cons of the ATP kits and the restrictive ATP turbine housing. Maybe you should do some research before making your purchase.

If all you want is 380-410 WHP then you might be able to get it easily and at a lesser cost by looking at the Buschur Racing bolt-on 20G turbos, the BR 20G-9-5 and the new BR 20G-9-5 LT. These would keep a true stock appearing engine bay and you wouldn't have to buy a kit or fabricate a dubious header either.

If it was me I would really analyze whether you really want a kit or a true bolt-on stock appearing turbo like the BR 20G's, and if you want the larger GT series turbos then you'll need race gas or meth to take advantage of their high boost efficiency range. If you still want something like a 50-Trim then I would save up for a good comprehensive kit like the Shearer, AMS, Buschur(good pricing), or the Turbo Trix.

 

This thread has been very informative and really put me on track for what to chose and buy for my purpose..

I think Shearer and their kit 50Trim seem to suite my requirements..

Thanks Guys!

Wael

 

Simple ...... Lies. Maybe and I mean MAYBE with a Mivec Stroker. What is full boost for you? The fastest I have seen a 50 Trim hit 20PSI is about 3800 RPM's which is VERY good. 3100 to full boost would be faster then stock, a T-25 could do this.

 

AMS never says that the 50 trim will fully spool at 3600 rpms, you guys need to re-read what the site says.

You can't go wrong with the shearer 50trim kit, let us know how you like it.

 

Full boost for me is 23 psi, rock solid boost. Awesome tuning by Gadiel

 

Best reply in here. The 50 trim works. I haven't seen a 3076 outperform yet.

 

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Full boost for me is 23 psi, rock solid boost. Awesome tuning by Gadiel

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Just curious, what RPM are you reaching 23# at? What are your camgear settings? And finally, what sort of engine management(stand alone, piggyback or flash) are you running?

It is awesome tuning , BTW

 

23 pounds @ 4500 rpms
Cam gears set at I have no idea done by Tito Cam Degree here and Gadiel
EM none, only reflash EcuTek

 

looking to hear more about these two setups

 

Cajun,

would you mind sharing your dyno results? Reason I ask, I just dyno'd on the same dyno you used on Oct. 14 (EngineLogics in Houston). My setup is different than yours, namely a 50 trim vs. your 3076, I'm sure the cams are different, but the rest is probably pretty close, but it would be another comparison.

I don't mind throwing my results up here, but it's a Dyno Dynamics dyno, and this dyno reads lower than most! So I think this would be a good heads up comparison since it's the same dyno and the major difference in setups is the turbo. As long as our supporting mods are about the same, it should be a good comparison between turbos. I only tuned for 20 psi and pump gas (93 octane). I don't have alky on the car, so I can't compare to your alky runs, just your pump gas run.

I'll go first.... Evo 8, 50 trim (AMS kit), GSC 280 cams, 780 cc injectors, Utec, FMIC, full 3" exhaust (no cat), stock head, stock block, and I think that about covers the important stuff.

But this is meaningless unless we can get a comparison of your results. I'm not trying to be an a$$ or say my d!&% is bigger than yours, just trying to see if we have an apples to apples comparison.