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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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Phenolic Intake Manifold Gasket...anyone use this?

I will be replacing the Intake Manifold soon and I was wondering if anyone has used an Intake Manifold spacer such as the one shown below? Any reviews, otherwise I will be going with the stock gasket.

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/29706

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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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If, as you say, you are having the intake manifold off, that would be the time to do it. You might want to look at the Hondata intake gasket as well.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 04:45 AM
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Hondata is awesome

Thats one of the first things I did to my car.

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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 05:56 AM
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Yes, it does. I have the Hondata version, and it works great.

Depending on the ambient temperatures, How long the car has been running, etc. and if dogs and cats are living together, I have with my pyrometer measured at a MINIMUM a ~20 degree difference in head temperature vs intake manifold temperature. The temp's were taken just above the gasket about 1/2", then on the intake manifold about 1/2" away from the gasket. After installing it, I did notice a subtle difference in my recently calibrated a$$ dyno. I have taken readings with the car at operating temperatures just after driving, and idling for a few minutes, etc... I must admit, I was impressed.

Is it worth the ~$50 I paid for it? Yes. Was it worth the install? Umm, well the excessive amounts of beers and loud obnoxious music made it a little better. Getting that manifold off was a bizzatch.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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Yes, it does. I have the Hondata version, and it works great.

Depending on the ambient temperatures, How long the car has been running, etc. and if dogs and cats are living together, I have with my pyrometer measured at a MINIMUM a ~20 degree difference in head temperature vs intake manifold temperature. The temp's were taken just above the gasket about 1/2", then on the intake manifold about 1/2" away from the gasket. After installing it, I did notice a subtle difference in my recently calibrated a$$ dyno. I have taken readings with the car at operating temperatures just after driving, and idling for a few minutes, etc... I must admit, I was impressed.

Is it worth the ~$50 I paid for it? Yes. Was it worth the install? Umm, well the excessive amounts of beers and loud obnoxious music made it a little better. Getting that manifold off was a bizzatch.
I put the Hondata intake manifold gasket on my B18C motor and had to get longer studs....do i have to do the same on the EVO?
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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No you shouldnt have to use longer studs. You need a new gasket when you take the manifold off so you might as well just buy a hondata one. They have been dyno pruven to work and people with hondas have been using them forever. if you need one we have them in stock, there $58 shipped.

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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Evo 8
I put the Hondata intake manifold gasket on my B18C motor and had to get longer studs....do i have to do the same on the EVO?

I dunno. I changed all mine to SS studs, all around the head. Exhaust studs, manifold studs and a few others. So, I never knew if the factory stuff would work.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris@nolimitmotors
No you shouldnt have to use longer studs. You need a new gasket when you take the manifold off so you might as well just buy a hondata one. They have been dyno pruven to work and people with hondas have been using them forever. if you need one we have them in stock, there $58 shipped.

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Good price...anything else I can do besides porting the IM to help anything?

Any tips to taking off the IM any easier?
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 05:27 AM
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Not that I trust Ebay but obviously there has been some problems with the Hondata gaskets per this auction?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=330060879047
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 06:06 AM
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I have been using the Hondata version on my B18C since '01 and it works wonders for lowering the IAT. I did not use a gasket because the spacer, in essence, is a thick gasket. I saw at least 20* temps drops whenever I datalogged.
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 06:23 AM
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So you would trust the Hondata gasket for the EVO?
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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Yes, I would trust the Hondata gasket or one of the copies on an EVO. It's kinda difficult to screw up this item.
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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I used the Hondata IMG on my K20A2 and I can honestly say that IAT temperatures were much lower. I monitored the temperatures via K-Pro (Programmable ECU) and saw significant changes in temperatures during stop-and-go traffic as well as at cruising speeds.

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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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Where were you monitoring temperature from?
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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On the B18C the IAT sensor is mounted on the manifold. I also bypassed the coolant line for the IACV because IACV is not needed when you live on a tropical ROCK.
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