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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 12:00 AM
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I hear you about the brakes, that should be interesting. I actually plan on doing alot of HPDE with this car so once I toast the stockers, I'll have to do something soon I'm sure. This summer I plan on finishing the car and taking care of the brakes and suspension, and hopefully by then I'll be able to afford to do it right.
at least get some good pads and fluid... dont wanna wreck it... fluid 40$ pads 150-200... with all the money your putting it very important....

i didnt realize how much better the stock brakes can get until i drove a friends car with better pads rotors lines shims and fluid.....

i thought the stockers were amazing til i drove his car...

couple months later i have everything except shims... which isnt necessary since i dont track my car... i plan to.. but not week it a weekend thing... more of a yearly thing
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 4 Wheel Slide
at least get some good pads and fluid... dont wanna wreck it... fluid 40$ pads 150-200... with all the money your putting it very important....

i didnt realize how much better the stock brakes can get until i drove a friends car with better pads rotors lines shims and fluid.....

i thought the stockers were amazing til i drove his car...

couple months later i have everything except shims... which isnt necessary since i dont track my car... i plan to.. but not week it a weekend thing... more of a yearly thing
I'm real stubborn about things like that, not sure why but I always have been. This actually isn't my first evo, and on my 2003 I did all the basic brake upgrades you mentioned. You're right it does make a world of difference though. I just want to get some more use out of the stock setup first. I've got an extra set of pads and some super blue at the house, I just don't want to take out perfectly good pads is all. This summer I'd like to add Stoptech's brake kit to the front, I just need to save a bit of money untill I do.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Frenchy4g63
It's not twice as much it's 50% more, it would be enough for you, but from a price standpoint, you could get a regular Walbro for less and in the end have a lot more room to grow if you ever feel the need. Either one will work, I guess it depends on how far you plan on taking you car.
That's what I meant it was just late when I posted that, and I had a little Heineken in me. At this point his twin pump setup would be nice, but it's also pretty expensive. I'd like like to think after this I'll have no plans for more power in the future, but we've all heard that one before .

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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 08:10 AM
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I'm real stubborn about things like that, not sure why but I always have been. This actually isn't my first evo, and on my 2003 I did all the basic brake upgrades you mentioned. You're right it does make a world of difference though. I just want to get some more use out of the stock setup first. I've got an extra set of pads and some super blue at the house, I just don't want to take out perfectly good pads is all. This summer I'd like to add Stoptech's brake kit to the front, I just need to save a bit of money untill I do.
thats good.... i made the mistake of taking my car to a 2 day event and every 15ish minutes i would have to pull out and wait 15-20 minutes for my brakes to cool down before i can go back out... and my times got slower and slower as the day progessed... that night i found a place who stocked hawk pads for evo's picked myself up a good set and had no problems at all for the rest of the time

cheers!
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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Add a BR Dual Pump Kit,BR COP Ingnition and AEM + a better cam.If you drag race much,4.11 gear will help a for 2.3.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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you're definitely going to need an ignition upgrade. From what I've read it looks like the new Buschur system is the way to go, the HKS is mediocre imo
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ang Wen Yan
Add a BR Dual Pump Kit,BR COP Ingnition and AEM + a better cam.If you drag race much,4.11 gear will help a for 2.3.
The 4.11 isn't needed. None of the fastest Evo's are using it. You don't need to shift into 5th, so it's really not necessary. He's already got one Walbro, so he doesn't need the BR double pumper kit, just needs another Walbro. The Buschur Ignition is the best, but it's pricey, and yeah, an ecu upgrade and better cams would most definatly help.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Frenchy4g63
The 4.11 isn't needed. None of the fastest Evo's are using it. You don't need to shift into 5th, so it's really not necessary. He's already got one Walbro, so he doesn't need the BR double pumper kit, just needs another Walbro. The Buschur Ignition is the best, but it's pricey, and yeah, an ecu upgrade and better cams would most definatly help.
I'll be using the HKS V-pro for engine management, and after PMing Greg at GSC he's convinced me to upgrade to their S2 cams. Also, after reading the Pruven thread with the 703whp IX, it's certainly got me confused as how to address the ignition. It appears he's using the HKS unit, so if he can get away with it a 45lbs of boost then its very tempting. I'll need to do a bunch of digging monday becuase that almost sounds too good to be true.

Frenchy, I'm not sure I understand your comment on not needing the double pumper kit. From what I understand to run two intank fuel pumps you would need a custom housing to hold both pumps. How could I implement another walbro without his kit?
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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Smogrunner has a clean setup that utiltizes a good chunk of factory parts, I would PM him.

I recall a thread started by him regarding fuel components.

Good luck and good call ditching the ttrix cams and going wit the GSC ones.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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Sorry if you were confused, as far as the pump kit, the kit comes with fuel pumps, since you have one, you woudn't need the entire kit, that's all I was saying. Get the kit, minus one Walbro.

The HKS is good, I said earlier in this thread it would be a good idea. The HKS works fine, the Buschur ignition has the coil on plug and the box. The HKS is just the box. If you wan't the best get the Buschur, it's probly overkill for your setup though so the HKS will be fine.

Nice choice on the cams, GSC's cams are made by Kelford to GSC specs, Kelford is really nice stuff from all accounts. As it sits right now, I'll probly be using Kelfords soon. The V Pro is awesome, do you have someone who can tune it for you? You may or may not know, but there's only certain shops that are "licensed" to tune it, and you can't make any adjustments on your own. It's not a big deal as long as long your not too far from your tuner.

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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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you're definitely going to need an ignition upgrade. From what I've read it looks like the new Buschur system is the way to go, the HKS is mediocre imo
I agree had HKS and switched to Buschur system.

Also call Eric at AMS and ask him for some advice on your build I'm sure he will help you out.

You know you can just keep going and going with the mods so If you have a budget try to stick to it. Like I really did

Look into the new AEM system I hear it is very user friendly.

Good luck with your build.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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indeed these last posts have said the truth you need an aftermarket ingnition amplifer.

turboxs or xsengineering one of the xs's has one on their site for like 285 not sure how good it is but im sure its up to par with the hks and 1/2 the price
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by John4321
I'll be using the HKS V-pro for engine management, and after PMing Greg at GSC he's convinced me to upgrade to their S2 cams. Also, after reading the Pruven thread with the 703whp IX, it's certainly got me confused as how to address the ignition. It appears he's using the HKS unit, so if he can get away with it a 45lbs of boost then its very tempting. I'll need to do a bunch of digging monday becuase that almost sounds too good to be true.

Frenchy, I'm not sure I understand your comment on not needing the double pumper kit. From what I understand to run two intank fuel pumps you would need a custom housing to hold both pumps. How could I implement another walbro without his kit?
I have the pruven fuel system that lets me boost that high and i also have the stage injection which gives me enough fuel to run safe
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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Ok, I think I've figured out what needs to be done now. This has cost alot more money but it should be worth it in the long run. I've decided instead of just building the head with larger valves, to use the AMS race head. For fuel and ignition I'm going to use buschur's dual pump setup with H.O. pumps, and a HKS DLI. I'm also going to use GSC's S2 cams.

I appreciate everone's help, this should do the trick. The last thing I wanted was something silly like running out of fuel or my ignition breaking up to keep me from reaching the full potential of my parts.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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I suggest the AEM EMS to tune it as well. Not sure what you plan was, but you really need a standalone to harness all the power out of the setup imo.

Brakes - At least upgrade your fluid! I'd do pads too, ya want it to stop, and it's going to be carrying a TON more velocity with a 35r in it and 35psi!

Gauges - dunno if you're planning on doing any data-logging to be safe? Maybe some EGT's, AFR's or oil temp's just to be safe?

Have fun with it!!!!!
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