greddy e manage or 3 buschur turbo back exhaust
I'd say a turbo-back would be a good first mod (assuming this is your first mod) and pretty much hassle free. Though I'm awaiting peoples opinions on the Emanage as well to see if/how it stacks up to the Xede which is the management system I'm planning on getting thus far.
Re: greddy e manage or 3 buschur turbo back exhaust
Originally posted by evoinit
not sure which to go with for now
not sure which to go with for now
I would get the exhaust.
If you get a good exhaust, chances are you'll hold onto it for a long time, vs. engine control electronics which you may want to replace as soon as better electronics become available, e.g. electronics that have finer-resolution control, are EVO-tailored, or are otherwise better suited to your particular vehicle and mods. An e-Manage just seems like more of an "outgrowable" part.
If you get a good exhaust, chances are you'll hold onto it for a long time, vs. engine control electronics which you may want to replace as soon as better electronics become available, e.g. electronics that have finer-resolution control, are EVO-tailored, or are otherwise better suited to your particular vehicle and mods. An e-Manage just seems like more of an "outgrowable" part.
Last edited by ez76; May 28, 2003 at 02:50 AM.
If I had to choose I would say go with engine management. The Evo really lacks oomph up top and being able to alter the fuel/timing to improve the a/f ratio will make a dramatic difference. Plus, if you get an exhaust later you can re-tune for that as well.
If you want the Greddy e-manage, make sure you are willing to spend money on dyno tuning and either know someone or can do that yourself. You could also look into the XEDE, which comes with downloadable maps and is a little easier to install. You can learn more about XEDE here:
http://www.vishnutuning.com/xede.htm
Alfriedesq seems to have the most experience w/ e-manage, so you could pm him to ask about that.
Mark
If you want the Greddy e-manage, make sure you are willing to spend money on dyno tuning and either know someone or can do that yourself. You could also look into the XEDE, which comes with downloadable maps and is a little easier to install. You can learn more about XEDE here:
http://www.vishnutuning.com/xede.htm
Alfriedesq seems to have the most experience w/ e-manage, so you could pm him to ask about that.
Mark
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Originally posted by TRDHarrier
I will go for JIC Magic Titanium cat back exhaust
I will go for JIC Magic Titanium cat back exhaust
IMHO, an exhaust is not as wise an investment as a fuel & timing control. The exhaust will give you some power gains but will not be optimal without further tuning. For more tuning you need the e-manage or similar device.
BTW, there is virtually no difference between exhaust systems of the same category as long as they are the same size. In other words a 3" cat-back with a straight through muffler and a resonator is going to give almost identical power gains than another one with the same characteristics, Biggest difference will be the price, fit and overall quality of manufacture. Same would hold true for a turbo-back system, one is as good as another for producing power as long as they are similar in size and construction.
Another thing to consider is the cost. By the time you buy and install a turbo back system (unless you do it yourself) you'll have spent more money than what the e-manage or SAFC will cost you even after a dyno tuning session, and you'll only get a fraction of the power increase that the piggy-backs can give you. BTW, the XEDE ands the SAFC can be obtained with preprogrammed maps for various states of tune of your EVO so you don't even need to dyno tune them....
Last edited by silverEVO8; May 28, 2003 at 02:32 PM.
Originally posted by silverEVO8
BTW, the XEDE ands the SAFC can be obtained with preprogrammed maps for various states of tune of your EVO so you don't even need to dyno tune them....
BTW, the XEDE ands the SAFC can be obtained with preprogrammed maps for various states of tune of your EVO so you don't even need to dyno tune them....
Originally posted by Stinkapuss
I've seen someones preset afc settings on a dyno and the a/f needed adjusting badly. There was another 15 hp to be had and he still would have had an a/f ratio below 11.5.1. Every car is different and will need to be tuned to achieve max hp.
I've seen someones preset afc settings on a dyno and the a/f needed adjusting badly. There was another 15 hp to be had and he still would have had an a/f ratio below 11.5.1. Every car is different and will need to be tuned to achieve max hp.
I'm sure that specific tuning for each car is the best way to go, but after all, all the cars come with the same maps from the factory, right? If so, how bad can the pre-set values, adjustments or maps that the vendors are selling can be?
u gotta get both. if u dont plan on further upgrades, then you should just get the emanage + tuning. look to spend ~700 for everything tuned and installed. loook to spend from 400+ on an exhaust. they both go extremely well together. both are basics necessities of a turbo car, especially the evo




