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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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The thoughts of having a 150 mph trap speed "green" EVO.

I do a lot of reading. I can only comprehend things I am very interested in though, otherwise 30 seconds after reading it I have no retention at all. I had a very hard time in school because of this. Wasn't interested, didn't care, made it hard to even cheat my way through.

Anyway, I am very interested in the environment, natural resources and my children being able to drive a car, breath our air etc.

Before one of you jumps up and calls me liar for selling more than my share of offroad pipes over the years, don't bother. I admit it and have arguements for it that's for another thread.....................

The recent testing/tuning we did on E85 in Keith's car really has me thinking about it all though. That car was just amazing and I think I am going to go that route with my own EVO RS.

Last year I burnt nothing in the car but C16. It's about $15 per gallon and I burnt up a lot of it.

The performance of the E85 (which was actually watered down to an E70) was just mind boggling.

I think with an actual E85 (85% ethanol) I can make as much power as I did on C16 and give less money to terrorists and use less of our non-renewable natural resources in the process.

I have set a goal for myself this year to have my daily driven street EVO run 150 mph trap speeds.

I think I am going to go one further and try to do it "green". I would like to attempt it on E85 and spend just $2 per gallon rather than $15.

If anyone gets Popluar Mechanics Magazine you need to read the article in it this month about the sand in Canada that has oil in it and how they are manufacturing it. It was a severe eye opener to me. The energy used up to get this oil is mind blowing. As the world runs out of oil it is getting harder and harder to find new reserves. It's just nuts.

As some of you know, I have a new Subaru too. We built parts for them in 2003 when I had a new WRX. Stopped messing with them because the EVO came out. Now I am back at it and I think I am going to convert it over too, the car is a beast, hard to believe how good it is. On E85 it would be simply incredible.

This fuel is very interesting so is the thought of maybe leaving a few more barrels of fuel for my children..........................
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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This thread was a lot like beating my **** and not finishing. I got all excited, then let down.

I thought by your title you were going to try 150 with with the Green turbo...

Opened it up, and found out you are going tree hugger.

Haha! Just kidding... Good luck. I wish I had E85 somewhere closer to me toplay with.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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BTW, I am thinking of running our Time Attack car on E85 this season too
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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I think its a great idea. tkklemann, stop being a tool. I know a very basic amount about E85 but i have heard great things about it's potential and its growing popularity in the midwest. Keep us updated and hopefully you won't have too much trouble with people like the above.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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Still only 2 e85 stations in all of florida, and one is on a military base, the other on the other side of the state, no good for me. But where are you getting c16 for 15 dollars a gallon, thats a lot of money, at moroso motorsports part there c16 pump is marked at 8.60 a gallon, and thats at a track, which I expect to be marked up a lot, compared with elsewhere. I can get 110 in 5 gallon jugs for 30 bucks at the sonocos in florida, and the one up in jacksonville has a 100 octaine pump at like 5.00 a gallon. Is c16 really that expensive elsewhere, or just abnormally high by you?
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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Tkkleman was just light-heartedly joking. He just has no E85 available to him. I don't either, but we have some Subies and Evos experimenting with it in our area. I would love to switch over to E85 instead of using alky, but right now it's not 100% available at all times, so I'm waiting a bit.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KartaRailed
Still only 2 e85 stations in all of florida, and one is on a military base, the other on the other side of the state, no good for me. But where are you getting c16 for 15 dollars a gallon, thats a lot of money, at moroso motorsports part there c16 pump is marked at 8.60 a gallon, and thats at a track, which I expect to be marked up a lot, compared with elsewhere. I can get 110 in 5 gallon jugs for 30 bucks at the sonocos in florida, and the one up in jacksonville has a 100 octaine pump at like 5.00 a gallon. Is c16 really that expensive elsewhere, or just abnormally high by you?
Karta, C16 for $8.60 is an absolute steal. Sometimes it's even more than $15/gal. You sure that's not just 116oct and not true C16? Hell, my local track sells 100 and 104oct for $6-7. C16 costs way more than those...
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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I cant find C16 anywhere around here, the most any of the VP dealers carry is C1, and it sells for around $9/gal.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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Yeah, I don't think you are going to find VP C16 for anywhere near $8.60.

Yes, it was a joke about the Green turbo, I got it, he was making a joke.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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David,

You guys can convert my car when CT gets with the program.

http://e85vehicles.com/e85-stations.htm

I have been following your threads on this and it seems pretty bad ***.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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When I get the time to haul the car down to you it will have a tune for E85. I was thinking of watching the AEM logs to watch afrs during the percentage changeover to adjsut the tune. Since you have the BR cams for me I am thinking of going back to the new 35r you have coming.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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I would also love to do E85, I am in the middle of farm country and E85 is still hard to find. Closest pump I have found is 20 min away. Still has me thinkin of a dual gas tank type set-up.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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thats cool an noble, but does everyone just overlook the fact it takes more fossil fuel energy, mainly petroleum, to make E85 than it actually contains? not to go off topic or anything. anyways, how are you coping with E85 requiring far richer a/f ratios, just up the injector size?
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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question for you Dave, how much boost are you running on the RS w/ C16 and approx how much will you be able to run on E85 once converted and tuned???
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ries
question for you Dave, how much boost are you running on the RS w/ C16 and approx how much will you be able to run on E85 once converted and tuned???
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