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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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Where is the best place to get a Short block!?

I just torn apart my evo I just got that was blown up. I didn't know how bad it was until today. It turns out that I need a whole short block. One way or another the rod cap came and off, and yeah . So where is a good place to buy a used stock short block? The head and everything is fine.. Just need bottom end.
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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call AMS they can get you a mild or wild shortblock in a short period of time
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Buschur Racing. 440-839-1900.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 06:00 AM
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not trying to spend a ton of money. Im working with slowboyracing.com right now. they are kinda local and seam pretty cool.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 06:34 AM
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theres a low mileage shortblock that was taken out for a 2.4l stroker engine install that is in the FS section. if you have trouble locating it, ill get it for you. he's selling it fairly cheap.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 06:48 AM
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I got mine from Buschur Racing!
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 07:07 AM
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my personal opinion will be: not to go with any of the mentioned above vendors, not because they are not good, as each one of them have good reputation.
however, the professional route will be going to professional engine builder and customize yourself the best combination according to your application and budget, that's what I did.
the above mentioned vendors, are not engine builders, and they all have outsourcing engine builders which they customize the internal/work level, don't you want to decide yourself (with the advice of your professional engine builder) what to put in your engine??
At the end of the day its will work cheaper and better if you have good professional engine builder. if you wish I can recommend you on at top one.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 07:11 AM
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I got mine from Buschur Racing!
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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not trying to spend a ton of money. Im working with slowboyracing.com right now. they are kinda local and seam pretty cool.
stay away from slowboys!! thats all i can say, i have talked to some insiders and the list of problems just keep going.

my vote goes to buschur, or otherwise ams
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 07:22 AM
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At the end of the day its will work cheaper and better if you have good professional engine builder. if you wish I can recommend you on at top one.
I find the above statement just a little misleading. AMS and Buschur racing both have very reasonable prices when it comes to a complete short blocks. Parts prices, machine work and Assembly all add up pretty quickly. Tally up the parts that are required and the money its going to take to get it all up and running. I think you will be surprised on how fast it adds up.

The "better" comment really irks me a bit. AMS and Buschur have more HP EVO's in the world running our engines so I think the "better" term really doesnt have any substanciating evidence behind it, especially considering you are not even stating a machine shop in general but rather generalizing a "local" engine builder.

Eric
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 07:22 AM
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buschur ftw.... one of the friends had a lot of problems with slowboy....
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 07:40 AM
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Eric,
Pleas don't be insulted, as I mentioned you all have great reputation, and it is well known that you deliver very fast cars.
but, correct me if I'm wrong, you don't have facility in house to build your engines, therefore in this one you must agree with me that if someone (just theoretically) go to the same engine builder that you work with, he can cut the middle man expenses? And I'm sure you customize a very good internals on the engines you order, however a custom internals sometimes can be more professional like for example I'ved used the Carrillo rods which anyone will agree are the best, whoever you don't offer them, as your kit will work up to be so expensive...
Again you are great shop, but if someone go more specifically to the source he can get a different deal.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 07:48 AM
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Actually you are misinformed, the ONLY thing AMS does not do in house is the actual machine work on the motor. We will not Hone, bore or machine the Receiver groove for the O-ring. We have a long standing relationsip with a mahcine shop here we have been working with over the past 5 years. All motors are machined to our specifications, Together we have been able to diagnose the right and wrong way to properly maching a 4G63 Block. ALL of the Assembly is done here in house, and done very meticulously. Tim (the shop manager) is the gentelman that assembles all EVO engines here and he undergoes a series of very detailed tasks when assembling a motor. We are actually in the process of updating our engine page now to outline some of those little behind the scenes things we do to our engines.

Please explain how Carillo rods are the best. I think that is more of a matter of opinion then anything. We have pushed Off the shelf Oliver and crower rods to over 1000 awhp on the EVO. I have never heard of a carillo rod doing that in an evo, please correct me if I am wrong.

I thank you for your kind words regarding our shop but this is an example of misinformation that can potentially hurt a business.

Eric

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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 07:57 AM
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From: City O Sin, MA...the not so sinish part though...
Yea whatever you do, dont go slowboy. My friend has his 97 gst in my garage now and i'm helpin him build it. He was ordering parts from them at first because they seemed to be a good source for most of what he needed. After a while though, we started getting parts that were wrong, or just not getting them, and when asking where they were they "forgot". Needless to say we're not using Slowboy anymore. If you ask around, MANY people will tell you Slowboy is just mediocre at best. How often do you hear about someone having anything but a positive experience with Buschur or AMS? I agree to a point with one of the posts mentioned above about seeing a pro engine builder. However It shouldn't be THAT much less. AMS and Buschur stroker shortblocks go for $3250(1800 core charge) and once you add it all up its not relaly that much more expensive than piecing out a kit and having it built.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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I am with AMS on that one. You said, "Go to a professional engine builder and get it done." What the hell do you think we and AMS are? Back yard amateurs? Do you really think you are going to go down to your local expert small block Chevy engine builder and have them do a better job on a 4G63 engine than the 18 years of JUST building 4G63 engine's that we can do? Let me just answer for you, NO you are not. There are many tricks to keeping a 4g63 engine together, tolerances, choice of parts etc. Nobody's going to build you an engine and get you best one if they aren't VERY familar with what it takes to do it.

As far as I am concerned you have two choices for a quality EVO engine, you can figure out the other one, we are the other.

If you just want a "stock" rebuild, we can do that too. If your block is re-usable and the crank I can do an engine very affordably.

If you need a crank I have plenty of those too. The block is the most expensive part of the build.
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