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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 02:20 AM
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I cant wait till I get E85 in my area. Great job Martin! That new block is looking sweet!
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 07:38 AM
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Actually, they are very quiet. You should hear my Weldon
I have installed these pumps many of times, and you can hear them over the exhausts, both inside and out
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by l2r99gst
Martin,

Pretty sure our winter blend is E70. So, you could probably get even better results with real E85.


Eric
+1

This seems to be the case everywhere. What I am wondering, however, is if a true E85 tune will warrant a new map when switching down to E70 next winter...

I am excited to see what true E85 does in the upcoming months.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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Pretty cool what a big differecne it makes with just E85! Gives me an Idea!
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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Great job Martin, now if only we could find E85 here in milwaukee i would run strickly that for $2/gallon! Is there anything that you have to do to prep the car to run on E85? I've seen lots of tuning with it but i have also heard that it is not good to run in street cars.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Nez136
now if only we could find E85 here in milwaukee i would run strickly that for $2/gallon!
Ask and you shall receive - E85 Pumps in Milwaukee:

Marathon: 4137 W Fond Du Lac Av

Citgo: 425 E Capitol Drive

Citgo E85: 2426 N Farwell Avenue

The Pantry: 1009 S 1st St

Marathon: 10501 Brown Deer Rd

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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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Yeah ethanol is great, until you realize it isn't exactly as cheap as you thought it to be. When you switch to an ethanol mixture, your mileage (miles per gallon) is going to go to crap. You will use more of it per volume to travel the same distance (when compared to straight gasoline). You might as well just fork out the cash for 100 octane unleaded (and not risk the chance of corroding your engine components). Anyone disagree?
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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Yeah ethanol is great, until you realize it isn't exactly as cheap as you thought it to be. When you switch to an ethanol mixture, your mileage (miles per gallon) is going to go to crap. You will use more of it per volume to travel the same distance (when compared to straight gasoline). You might as well just fork out the cash for 100 octane unleaded (and not risk the chance of corroding your engine components). Anyone disagree?
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sonicnofadz
Yeah ethanol is great, until you realize it isn't exactly as cheap as you thought it to be. When you switch to an ethanol mixture, your mileage (miles per gallon) is going to go to crap. You will use more of it per volume to travel the same distance (when compared to straight gasoline). You might as well just fork out the cash for 100 octane unleaded (and not risk the chance of corroding your engine components). Anyone disagree?
I disagree wholeheartedly. At $2.10/gal and ~15mpg (mixed city and highway) for E85 it is significantly cheaper than race gas unless you think you can get over 30mpg mixed driving with race gas. Actually, with gas prices at ~$3/gal the cost per mile is nearly the same as 93 oct based upon my mileage experiences.

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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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I disagree wholeheartedly. At $2.10/gal and ~15mpg (mixed city and highway) for E85 it is significantly cheaper than race gas unless you think you can get over 30mpg mixed driving with race gas. Actually, with gas prices at ~$3/gal the cost per mile is nearly the same as 93 oct based upon my mileage experiences.

-Paul
OK I wasn't sure on how great the mileage was on a tuned E85 car. Perhaps it is indeed a much better alternative to race fuel. Although I still wonder about the long term affects on the engine (ethanol has very corrosive properties). Maybe someone from Brazil can enlighten us? =)
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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OK I wasn't sure on how great the mileage was on a tuned E85 car. Perhaps it is indeed a much better alternative to race fuel. Although I still wonder about the long term affects on the engine (ethanol has very corrosive properties). Maybe someone from Brazil can enlighten us? =)
METHANOL has very corrosive properties, Ethanol is mildly corrosive, and that is somewhat buffered by the petrolium content of E-85. I can't warrenty your engine for 10 years 100000 miles, but I will keep running it and if/when I encounter problems I will let everyone on the board know So far I have put almost 1600 miles on the car running E-85.

I am getting 16 mpg city driving on winter blend E-85, and that is not driving it like a little old lady either. I could probably get 17 mpg with some effort.

Milage may suffer a bit more on summer blend, but I also will not be doing long warm ups at idle durring the summer so I think it will ballance out.

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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 05:16 AM
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Ethanol will definately be the wave of the future. The amount of Ethanol plants being built all across this country is amazing. From what I am told there will be about 22 new Ethanol plants going online and fully operational within the next 5 years.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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To be honest I see ethanol as more of a temporary solution.

Hydrogen will be the fuel of the future, but until that happens on a global scale, ethanol will bridge the gap between fossil fuels and hydrogen.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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Martin what is the max whp/wtq you have seen out of a 30R?

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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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ethanol keeps conventional motorsports as we know it in the game.
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