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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 04:40 PM
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u forgot the vishnu's and the HKS cams! i am considering both the ones you said and these!
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 04:41 PM
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i just wanna know if i'm getting ripped off or am i getting a good deal, on horsepower???
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by cecilia
i bought the 3" turbo-back, downpipe,high flow cat, airfilter and hks turbo timer....is that supposed to be more or less?
Go to Ultimate Racing's web site. I think they sell items in a package. U can check prices there.
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 09:41 AM
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i'm sure you're not getting "ripped off"

just curious why you chose buschur over ultimate? because i know you were asking about ultimate stuff before.
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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i don't know....i just decided to go with them, and see if i get a good performance out of it....what do you think.....will i see a difference in performance?
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 12:02 PM
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At $1,175 the Buschur exhaust is a complete rip-off....i thought it was cheaper. There's nothing special about it. It uses less materials than any other system out there aside from just running a pipe from the turbo all the way back with no muffler or cat. There are such nicer systems that look better, sound better, and cost hundreds less. For that price you can get an HKS Carbon Ti system (what i'm getting).
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 12:35 PM
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If you add up the price of the exhaust, it does not come out to $1,175!
Cat Back - $450
Cat - $150
Downpipe - $300

That comes out to $900.00.

What else did you buy?

We have the exhuast (no cat) and are very satisfied with it.
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by Coolguy949
At $1,175 the Buschur exhaust is a complete rip-off....i thought it was cheaper. There's nothing special about it. It uses less materials than any other system out there aside from just running a pipe from the turbo all the way back with no muffler or cat. There are such nicer systems that look better, sound better, and cost hundreds less. For that price you can get an HKS Carbon Ti system (what i'm getting).
The $1,175 quote is a mis-quote because that included a turbo timer and intake. The full exhaust would be $900 w/ a hi flow cat and $750 w/ a test pipe because that's included if you get the downpipe.

Mark
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 01:38 PM
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ok here's what i got, 3 turbo back, downpipe, high flow cat, clamps, and seperately i bought a turbo timer shipping and all was $100.00 also i got a intake, so total from buschur was $1,075.00. So you guys are telling me that the exhaust system isn't worth it does it even sound good, and will it give me some power??? I'm sorry if i didn't explain myself, i'm just kinda excited to get this exhaust....
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 02:25 PM
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other people have liked the buschur exhaust. when it comes down to it there probably won't be THAT much of a difference between competitors. pick what tickles the fancy and stick with it.
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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ok, now can someone tell me that they have seen the difference in stock and the exhaust system that i've gotten?? will it give me some power?
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 05:24 PM
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Buy a boost controller and Super AFC and you will have close to 270-290 HP if you get it tuned.
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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We sell the Buschur Racing 3" exhaust and just installed one on our shop Evo, and got some dyno numbers. I posted about that in another thread. Check it out.



I'd say in the small world of Evo exhausts, Buschur's system is the most race-oriented, and the least flashy -- it's simple, effective, and really, really light. It's not fancy, but it's also pretty affordable. I would not call it quiet; my car sounds like a race car now.

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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by nigelcain555
What about Vishnu or Works? I know they don't have a comparable set up at this time but I was curious as to what your thoughts were about these two tuners. thanx
I have the Vishnu XEDE and 3" Turbo Back with Hi-flow cat. Dynojet AWD at Altered Atmosphere in MD measured 272 HP and 264.4 TQ running stock boost map. Overall drivability is exceptionally better that stock and performance is like a different car. Exhaust is not nearly as loud as the Buschur and relatively unintrusive as cruise speeds. Boost mapping and cam gears are currrently being tested by Vishnu who reports substantial improvements. XEDE software updates and maps are free but will have to purchase the cam gears.

There are tons of Vishnu Stage Zero (XEDE and Cat back) posts all over this forum.

The Stage One adds DP, hi-flow cat, cam gears, and updated maps to allow boost tuning through the factory ECU. This upgrade is still in testing but should be available soon.
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by Mach V Dan
I'd say in the small world of Evo exhausts, Buschur's system is the most race-oriented, and the least flashy -- it's simple, effective, and really, really light. It's not fancy, but it's also pretty affordable. I would not call it quiet; my car sounds like a race car now.
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