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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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this definetly isn't safe by any means.... but thanks for the defense!
Which is why you should not have posted it and is why we're complaining. Test your own car all you want, but don't come on here and make newbies think it's ok to run 28psi on pump gas.
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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Which is why you should not have posted it and is why we're complaining. Test your own car all you want, but don't come on here and make newbies think it's ok to run 28psi on pump gas.
no, you just like complaining... its a hobby of yours..


is this not a free website? am i not allowed to post stuff im trying so others can see and comment.
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 4 Wheel Slide
no, you just like complaining... its a hobby of yours..


is this not a free website? am i not allowed to post stuff im trying so others can see and comment.
blah don't listen to him. post whatever you want. btw autox sunday?
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 4 Wheel Slide
my 93 tune that i run is 11.1 afr, 13* timing, and 22 pounds of boost
Good job on backing off the timing on your 93 octane gas, but you can afford to lean out the car to 11.5:1 since your timing is retarded. Try that and see if you make more power.
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 4 Wheel Slide
is this not a free website? am i not allowed to post stuff im trying so others can see and comment.
Free? Yes, it's free. People are "free" to be as stupid as they want without repurcussion. Unfortunately, it should not be allowed when it's so potentially dangerous to others who don't know any better. You haven't completed your test - all you've done is get one log. That is very misleading info that could be catastrophic for newbs who don't have any sense (very common).

Interesting how in Joeymia's previous post, he commented on the EGT dangers, then when his alter ego took over, he tells 4WS to post whatever he wants. Very strange...
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Free? Yes, it's free. People are "free" to be as stupid as they want without repurcussion. Unfortunately, it should not be allowed when it's so potentially dangerous to others who don't know any better. You haven't completed your test - all you've done is get one log. That is very misleading info that could be catastrophic for newbs who don't have any sense (very common).

Interesting how in Joeymia's previous post, he commented on the EGT dangers, then when his alter ego took over, he tells 4WS to post whatever he wants. Very strange...
what alter ego what he is doing is not smart but he is free to do whatever he wants. you seem to want to control the content that is constantly posted. guess what you are not a mod.
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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blah don't listen to him. post whatever you want. btw autox sunday?
i think i might be there to just hang out and watch... i havent signed up yet

i just got new tires and i'd hate to kill them already.
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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Good job on backing off the timing on your 93 octane gas, but you can afford to lean out the car to 11.5:1 since your timing is retarded. Try that and see if you make more power.
i dont really use the 93... im always on meth...

i do a lot of long trip driving for work. hence why i have 26k in a little over a year.

so i want to make sure i have no problems...



the whole idea of today was just to have a little fun, test the limits and maybe learn a couple things.
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Free? Yes, it's free. People are "free" to be as stupid as they want without repurcussion. Unfortunately, it should not be allowed when it's so potentially dangerous to others who don't know any better. You haven't completed your test - all you've done is get one log. That is very misleading info that could be catastrophic for newbs who don't have any sense (very common).

Interesting how in Joeymia's previous post, he commented on the EGT dangers, then when his alter ego took over, he tells 4WS to post whatever he wants. Very strange...

actually i have about 15 logs from my experiences today for 28 pounds.

i also have another 12 from doing another map with 24 pounds.


maybe tomorrow ill do a 35 psi tune, oh wait with the greddy profec 2 it doesn't boost more than 30. i'll need to buy another one before i conduct that experiment
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Free? Yes, it's free. People are "free" to be as stupid as they want without repurcussion. Unfortunately, it should not be allowed when it's so potentially dangerous to others who don't know any better. You haven't completed your test - all you've done is get one log. That is very misleading info that could be catastrophic for newbs who don't have any sense (very common).

Interesting how in Joeymia's previous post, he commented on the EGT dangers, then when his alter ego took over, he tells 4WS to post whatever he wants. Very strange...
Who is to say what type of thought or actions are "stupid" and should be disallowed? This idealogy seriously hampers ingenuity, discovery, and innovation not to mention free speech when ones opinion can censor the masses simply because they “feel” it is inappropriate. On this very same web forum another gentleman by the name of mike1023 is running 30PSI on pump gas, stock turbo, and a FLASH. I believe the same flash you are running in fact more or less. He also ran a 11.23 @ 120MPH. Stripped car or not; (Al states that his interior stripping isn’t as excessive as it looks and still has a LOT more to go) do you not agree that we have a lot to learn from this? I find it very hard to believe that you served our country yet support this ideology. It could be that your opinion is in fact wrong or atleast flawed and could be open to change. There are no absolutes in speech, otherwise too much is lost. Who is to say what type of SPEECH is dangerous and should “not be allowed”? I believe in freedom of information and hope you do as well. It’s a slippery slope my friend when you state which speech is allowed and what is not. We all respect your opinion especially on Evo matters but please leave it only as that.

We all accept the fact that you will continually bash each and every newb asking a serious but old question that has been answered before with some sarcastic quip we have all heard before. We understand that you will type “SEARCH” so many times that it has lost its meaning. We all accept that immediately after you post you have a series of supporters and haters who either support your bashing texts or flame you for being harsh. But please do not state what should and should not be allowed to be posted. Everyone should be able to post especially if it shows a test and data; it is quite informative.


Thank You

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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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WhWho is to say what type of thought or actions are "stupid" and should be disallowed? This idealogy seriously hampers ingenuity, discovery, and innovation not to mention free speech when ones opinion can censor the masses simply because they “feel” it is inappropriate. On this very same web forum another gentleman by the name of mike1023 is running 30PSI on pump gas, stock turbo, and a FLASH. I believe the same flash you are running in fact more or less. He also ran a 11.23 @ 120MPH. Stripped car or not; (Al states that his interior stripping isn’t as excessive as it looks and still has a LOT more to go) do you not agree that we have a lot to learn from this? I find it very hard to believe that you served our country yet support this ideology. It could be that your opinion is in fact wrong or atleast flawed and could be open to change. There are no absolutes in speech, otherwise too much is lost. Who is to say what type of SPEECH is dangerous and should “not be allowed”? I believe in freedom of information and hope you do as well. It’s a slippery slope my friend when you state which speech is allowed and what is not. We all respect your opinion especially on Evo matters but please leave it only as that.

We all accept the fact that you will continually bash each and every newb asking a serious but old question that has been answered before with some sarcastic quip we have all heard before. We understand that you will type “SEARCH” so many times that it has lost its meaning. We all accept that immediately after you post you have a series of supporters and haters who either support your bashing texts or flame you for being harsh. But please do not state what should and should not be allowed to be posted. Everyone should be able to post especially if it shows a test and data; it is quite informative.


Thank You

2 points!

and the winner is.....


drum roll........


HIGH_PSI!!!!!

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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 4 Wheel Slide
im not using methanol.... this is just on 93...
I realize that. You indicated you were going to overlay a run with methanol, and I was stating why that wasn't going to prove anything useful where testing 93 octane is concerned.

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Originally Posted by High_PSI
On this very same web forum another gentleman by the name of mike1023 is running 30PSI on pump gas, stock turbo, and a FLASH. I believe the same flash you are running in fact more or less. He also ran a 11.23 @ 120MPH. Stripped car or not; (Al states that his interior stripping isn’t as excessive as it looks and still has a LOT more to go) do you not agree that we have a lot to learn from this?
For starters, we can learn that removing 300lbs of weight is sufficient to convince at least a certain number of people that the resulting difference at the track is due to increased power and not weight reduction. With full-weight cars, comparably equipped managing 118mph trap speeds with the very same turbo but at much lesser boost pressure, well, you get the idea.

Some people are so quick to buy into an idea because it's what they want to believe, not because they've considered the entire picture. In this case, there is (quite) a bit more to the story than what's indicated on the boost gauge.
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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For starters, we can learn that removing 300lbs of weight is sufficient to convince at least a certain number of people that the resulting difference at the track is due to increased power and not weight reduction. With full-weight cars, comparably equipped managing 118mph trap speeds with the very same turbo but at much lesser boost pressure, well, you get the idea.

Some people are so quick to buy into an idea because it's what they want to believe, not because they've considered the entire picture. In this case, there is (quite) a bit more to the story than what's indicated on the boost gauge.

with my mild base 22 pound i was at 335/318

24 pounds 367/348

28 pounds 378/358

there is power to be gained, but its not significant enough to run that much boost.


i need to work on my 22 pound map, max that out then ill see what boost is best on car to run... i have a feeling i can squeeze another 10-12 whp out of it...

so my 24 pound map seems to be best on my car.


cheers!
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