downforce games
good deal.
You seem to be willing to try things. I would suggest doing a back to back test where the only change is removing the side skirts. It will likely hurt your overall "downforce" numbers, but encouraging more air in from the sides of the car should help to fill in the wake zone behind the car and also reduce drag. It's tough to say definitively if this would have a large effect on the total drag because you would be balancing drag created from more air flowing over the rear half of the under body with reduced drag created from the wake. But since the side skirts are easy to take off, it's worth a shot.
You seem to be willing to try things. I would suggest doing a back to back test where the only change is removing the side skirts. It will likely hurt your overall "downforce" numbers, but encouraging more air in from the sides of the car should help to fill in the wake zone behind the car and also reduce drag. It's tough to say definitively if this would have a large effect on the total drag because you would be balancing drag created from more air flowing over the rear half of the under body with reduced drag created from the wake. But since the side skirts are easy to take off, it's worth a shot.
the main advantage to running a flat bottomed car with a rake is votex generation. the vorticies are formed from the air being sucked around the sharp edges along the sides of the car. The suction comes partially from a rear diffusor and partially from the diffusor effect of the raked floor. Even cars that are running full underbody aero still rely heavily on vortex generation for their downforce. Thus you see all kinds of vortex generators under and around the car. The strakes (not slats) are there to keep the air flow going in the right direction. When a car is turning the air isn't nessasarily flowing along the centerline of the car which results in the loss of downforce. They also serve to isolate each section from each other so that small disturbances in one section don't kill the flow in the others.
The overturning moment assoicated with a diffusor is quite small referenced to the overall downforce generated, due to the relatively small pressure differences across the surface of the diffusor/underbody and the low camber of the airfoil (it's basically straight).
The overturning moment assoicated with a diffusor is quite small referenced to the overall downforce generated, due to the relatively small pressure differences across the surface of the diffusor/underbody and the low camber of the airfoil (it's basically straight).
what you'll refer to as a raked underbody i'll refer to as an underbody with some angle of attack (we're talkin' about the same thing).
now the vortices that are created... the diffuser strakes are mainly there to minimize drag loss right? as the vortices form they cause the flow to diverge in either direction... of course across the width of an underbody in flow there can be multiple flows all diverging and converging against each other, the strakes are there to prevent that part yeah? those would cause alternating and varying pressure gradients under the car and then cause more disturbance which all just ends up as drag (?).
but the lowered pressures from angle of attack... those benefits are still there? or do some of the converging flows create higher pressures... or does non expidited evacuation of the underbody build up higher pressures that then reduce df (i think i'm answering my own questions)
Thanks CBRD.
For an update. I ran the car with all the newest aero stuff we have been trying this weekend. The MPH is up from the last time out with the car but still not where I want it. The car and Trent, did manage to win the Shootout this weekend, actually kind of dominated the class, running a bunch of 9.90 passes and winning in the finals with a 9.84. MPH was mostly 147.xx's. Going to be tougher to hit that 150 mph mark than I had hoped.
For an update. I ran the car with all the newest aero stuff we have been trying this weekend. The MPH is up from the last time out with the car but still not where I want it. The car and Trent, did manage to win the Shootout this weekend, actually kind of dominated the class, running a bunch of 9.90 passes and winning in the finals with a 9.84. MPH was mostly 147.xx's. Going to be tougher to hit that 150 mph mark than I had hoped.
They sure do
I am sure after some time it will. I will talk to Voltex and see what their plans are with the undertray.
I am sure after some time it will. I will talk to Voltex and see what their plans are with the undertray.
They are running a custom fabbed HRS/Unlimited Works Wide Tread Control Arms.
(For anyone interested) HRS does currently retail them, but they aren't that cheap
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How to build a front splitter!
Pick up the November issue of Modified Mag... excellent article/excellent instructions
Im using those instructions to try to make the center piece
How to build a front splitter!
Pick up the November issue of Modified Mag... excellent article/excellent instructions
Im using those instructions to try to make the center piece
This thread started out with a bunch of pictures of race cars and some discussion about their different aero features. I saw the following thread today:
http://twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.asp...msg_id=2079707
Someone got to tour a storage facility where Nissan keeps many classic cars and race cars. There's some very interesting aero to see here, and I thought of this thread while I looked at that one. Figured I'd post a link.
http://twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.asp...msg_id=2079707
Someone got to tour a storage facility where Nissan keeps many classic cars and race cars. There's some very interesting aero to see here, and I thought of this thread while I looked at that one. Figured I'd post a link.
Here is the link to the Voltex blog incase any of you would like to keep up with what they are doing. http://voltexsuzuka.blog12.fc2.com/
This thread started out with a bunch of pictures of race cars and some discussion about their different aero features. I saw the following thread today:
http://twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.asp...msg_id=2079707
Someone got to tour a storage facility where Nissan keeps many classic cars and race cars. There's some very interesting aero to see here, and I thought of this thread while I looked at that one. Figured I'd post a link.
http://twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.asp...msg_id=2079707
Someone got to tour a storage facility where Nissan keeps many classic cars and race cars. There's some very interesting aero to see here, and I thought of this thread while I looked at that one. Figured I'd post a link.
Here is the link to the Voltex blog incase any of you would like to keep up with what they are doing. http://voltexsuzuka.blog12.fc2.com/







) of whats going on with the exterior of the Cyber Evo:


