First of all - you may be able to try and and copy what David Buschur does, however you will certainly never accomplish the long list of innovations and break throughs which Buschur has pioneered in the DSM world. I have known the man for several years and I still learn new things about Evos from him just about every time i speak with him, the guy is a car genious.

You typify the the essense of the toxic and disrespectful underbelly of the so called "fourm junkies" who have not done anything remarkable expect to insult others from behind a key board.

I think somehow your hatred and envy has clouded your grasp of rational thought to the degree that you really believe a cheap tin like copied part with poor welds and mis matched joints is just as good as the pictures of the obviously superior megan / buschur / ebay unit.

My point of the thread was to warn potential customers that there are cheap copies of the so called "ebay 02 housing" which have not worked well.

Inteligent and responsible customers would take note and make sure they obtained such parts from known sources which have a good reputation, be it on Ebay, here or otherwise.

I really do not fully comprehend your issues with this, nor do i care to.

It seems you seek to prove that a cheap copy cat part you have never seen will work in a car - even though it has leaking welds, mis aligned joints and cheap thin metal.

Sure you can undercut retail prices on parts - so what? The whole idea of retail is that a store is staffed and customer service is provided to make a purchase a easy process. The question if these fringe benefits (sales advice, web site, forums, stock, customer service, etc) are worth the additional price a consumer pays is really not the point of this thread.

It really amazes me that people have so much time to waste on such trivial points.

 

Oh lord, these eBay/China bashing threads are STILL going on?

 

Of course, isn't that what people do when they feel threatened?


Al, now... sit back.. think to yourself.. what the hell does a thread about a EBAY 02 housing have to do with buschurs 'innovations', 'break throughs' and being a 'genious'? EVERY SINGLE THREAD that you post and then challenged you bring up 'accomplishments' like they have anything to do with being called out on something. IMHO, you can being making shiat smell good for 20 years, it doesn't matter, if you are called out with evidence (this has more to do with other threads than this one) then you need to either reply with actual evidence to back your case up or admit your wrong doings, not polish your medals...

 

He didn't buy them for that price. He bought 4 of them for 200= $50/each

The TTP 02 housing sitting in my garage is the exact same as the Megan. QC sticker and all. Just the "Megan Racing" metal piece removed.

It's one big happy 02 housing family! They are all related.

Jason

 

So why not just post the ebay vendors name that sold the copy of the copy so we know not to buy from him. Problem solved .

 

The one in the very first post is different than the other crappy piece that some SSautochrome buyers recieved that had the o2 threads down by where the downpipe attaches.

I just ordered one from ezplus2003 on ebay and it is awesome.

 

You are such a tool Al. you have your head so far up bushur **** you cant think straight. My point in this thread from the beginning is that the e-bay housing in this test is the same as the one your worship as the winner. it is very likely that it is made at the same factory. maybe the chinese actually figured out they could make a bigger profit by not grinding down the welds on the outside.

Since you would rather insult my intelligence rather than actually prove me wrong, I a going to order that same housing from the same company you called. I will then post side by side pictures, metal thickness, weld quality, weight, and waste hole size. What I am sure this will prove is that I am right and you are wrong.

I am not a vender. I dont sell parts. I couldn't care less about your precious tuning experience or your so called fast buschur inspired race car. I do care about you making stupid posts and videos that do nothing to improve the knowledge of those on here who may be trying to gain some. You were the biggest **** in the world when you first joined the boards. Then you grew up and realized your business would prosper if you weren't such an arogant *****, something BR has yet to learn. For some reason lately you have been reverting back to your roots.

 

I just took the time to actually watch the end of that video. You say that you want to find the company so you can complain to the better business bureau. then you say you cant even find them on the internet. HA what a tool you are. They not only have a website with all the same info form the box, they have perfect 100% feedback on e-bay with 20 or so recent feedbacks.

 

Louis Goldblatt should have just ordered the buscher piece to begin with.

 

94AWD, I think you are missing out on the fact that the E-Bay housings you bought are different to the some of the others on sale. There is another thread about them on here. The crappy ones have a smaller wastegate hole than the one you have. Apparently SS used to sell the good one and now sell the crappy one.

BTW if the good E-Bay ones are still copies, who makes the original one?

 

If we ever get housings in stock again I will post a picture of the ones we buy. There is no QC sticker on them and they are packaged completely differently with different installation parts than all these that are being posted. The housing we order have been backordered for over 30 days now, so if any of you are buying housings currently, I'd say they can't be from the same company. Many of these do look the same, I can't tell much difference from looking at pictures of them. I ordered ONE housing, tested it, it worked and then I ordered more directly without going through ebay. I am not pulling anything over anyone's eyes you flipping idiots. I cannot buy these for $50 each and when I get the next shipment I will post a picture of what I pay off the invoice to prove it. Add to this the shipping to ship them out for coating, the coating cost (which isn't silver paint that costs $20) and then pay to ship them back to our shop..........figure it out yourself. We sell them $195 after all this. IF you don't want them I could care less as I can't get them and coat them fast enough to keep them instock. Buy it elsewhere, I didn't make this post, Al did. I simply came under attack for being a rip off, it's not a rip off when you are getting the quality housing, coated and no worries of being screwed. I make it quite clear it is a housing that can be bought from Ebay, go get it there if you wish.

As for me being an arrogant ***** and not learning, (direct as 94awdpoop) it isn't arrogance, it is being convinced from the countless records we've set, proof day in and day out of quality builds and parts. We are obviously doing something right as we are busier than ever, that's after 18 years of doing the same thing. We didn't stay in business making people unhappy.



94awd I wish I could tell you what I want to say but I'd get points, leave it at that. I do invite you to come to the shootout this year though, just remind me of your mouth when you get there as someone like you I quickly forget.

 

Obviously David looks his over before they go out to the customer...I would rather spend $195 through Dave because by some freak chance the one you buy from DaveB did "creap or crack" he would take care of you. You truly do get what you pay for I would say about 90% of the time. It cost money to go fast...thats why I will be stuck in the 11s for a while lol

 

Since when is 11's not fast?

 

To YOU the point is that they are the same

To me - my point is that they are NOT the same

I believe this was verified by the car owner's mechanic and also our mechanic's comments

Its NOT the same part



I have no time to waste to prove you wrong. You and what you thing are not even on my radar screen. I am far too buisy with other projects than to waste time on such a useless activity.




I would suggest that you simply do not view my videos or read my threads.

As for Buschur, what ever he is doing must be working very well as they are more busy over there than they have ever been. I think customers are more interested in the high quality parts, fair prices and superior experiennce in chosing a shop to build their cars.

This trend has been reflected in the very filled Buschur parking lot.

I am going there later today

I will be sure to make some videos when i get there

Viewer beware !

 

I think the point is that when you buy part from David you get the following :

1 - His company sponsors and supports these forums - (unlike the ebay vendors)

2 - he tests the products on his dyno and only sells ones which make power

3 - he employs a expert sales team of Jrod and Nick to answer the phone - give tech advice and process your order in a timely manner

4 - he has a professional shipping depertment you can call to track your order

5 - His parts coatings, etc are warrantied


Most of the Br parts are made by BR so this convo is irrelevant

However, as David pointed out when he decided to sell these parts - the ones he sells are impossible to duplicate for the same price

To his credit he has always openly identified them as the ebay 02 housing modified with the BR coating

Al