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Old May 19, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mikesevo8
If it helps, here is the specific info from the evo manual:

DTC P0172: SYSTEM TOO RICH
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System too Rich Circuit
• Refer to, DTC P0201 − P0204 Injector Circuit Malfunction P.13A-267.
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CIRCUIT OPERATION
• Refer to, DTC P0201 − P0204 Injector Circuit Malfunction P.13A-267.
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TECHNICAL DESCRIPTION
• If a malfunction occurs in the fuel system, the fuel trim value becomes too small.
• The ECM checks whether the fuel trim value is within a specified range.
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DTC SET CONDITIONS
Check Condition 1
• Under the closed loop air/fuel ratio control.
• Engine coolant temperature is higher than 77°C (171°F).
• Volume airflow sensor output frequency is 56 Hz or more.
Judgment Criteria
• Long-term fuel trim has continued to be lower than −12.5 percent for 5 seconds.
or
• Short-term fuel trim has continued to be lower than −10 percent for 5 seconds.

Check Condition 2
• Under the closed loop air/fuel ratio control.
• Engine coolant temperature is higher than 77°C (171°F).
• Volume airflow sensor output frequency is 56 Hz or less.
Judgment Criteria
• Long-term fuel trim has continued to be lower than −12.5 percent for 5 seconds.
or
• Short-term fuel trim has continued to be lower than −15.0 percent for 5 seconds.

Check Condition 3
• Engine coolant temperature is higher than 77°C (171°F).
• Under the closed loop air/fuel ratio control.
Judgment Criteria
• Long-term fuel trim has continued to be −12.5 percent for 5 seconds.
or
• Short-term fuel trim has continued to be −25.0 percent for 5 seconds.
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TROUBLESHOOTING HINTS (The most likely causes for this code to be set are: )
• Volume airflow sensor failed.
• Injector failed.
• Incorrect fuel pressure.
• Engine coolant temperature sensor failed.
• Intake air temperature sensor failed.
• Barometric pressure sensor failed.
• Harness damage in injector circuit, or connector damage.
• ECM failed.

Thanks Mike....

I did a search and came up with 2 ideas:

1) I may have to swap in my stock fuel pump (which I'm having trouble finding in my garage
2) I'm still running my HKS BOV as a VTA, so I may need to put in the stock UICP and recirculate....

your thoughts? Can a Fuel pump create too much pressure and cause the code to be thrown?
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Old May 19, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Phenix_fyah
Injector needs to be scaled and voltage latency needs to be adjusted to get the STFT correct.
I have the stock ECU and injectors and MAF put back in there, and my car is an 05 model.....

What does STFT mean?
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Old May 19, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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Short Term Fuel Trims
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Old May 19, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Phenix_fyah
Short Term Fuel Trims
That just went over my head.... still not sure what to do...
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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Ok, I never came back to explain how I resolved my issue. I had to remove my HKS 280 cams, and put the stockers in, and voila, the code went away and i was able to pass the OBD2 test and and get my new inspection sticker.
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