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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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Question e85 users

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to all e85 users, i am from new jersey, one of the few states that does not sell
e85 at the pump. i have a few questions about it and the plus and minus' of what seems to be a super fuel.

one question i thought might be able to be answered by the e85 faithful. how do you get it available in your state? yes i know this is alot to do with politics that none of us can really influence but if anyone has a path of action that can or should be taken please advise.

two have you noticed any abnormal fuel sys. wear? pumps, lines or anything of that sort.

if yes to the above question is there any proactive action that can be taken to prevent these thing. like maybe a fuel lubricant. just throwing things out there.

three since e85 is a consumer fuel and is suppose to be usable always (i think)
does it absorb alot of moisture. the reason why i ask this is i dont know if flex fuel veh. are prepared to either resist moisture intrusion or poss. use a sort of drier.

i will apologize for any info i could have found but i wanted to hear it strait from the evo owners mouth not the generic web.


thanks in advance, feel free to discuss or inform
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 03:54 PM
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E 85 users???????

ya out there????

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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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I have been using it for about a month and so far no ill affects. Yes it does absorb moisture over a period....If it sits for say a month it may attract quite a bit of moisture but if you dd your car you have nothing to worry about. If you do not dd it I would personally drain the tank if the car sits for too long with the e85 in it. I'm not sure if running a fuel lube would help or even if it is hurting the car as of now. I know our fuel rails and most aftermarket pumps (ie walbro) are compatible. The only part I am even the slightest bit concerned are the rubber lines. I am keeping a close on those and the fuel pump sock to make sure they are not deteriorating. Besides that I personaly think it is the best thing since sliced bread for making power and burning very clean on the sensors and plugs. I will eventually upgrade to steal fuel lines just in case. Hope this helps.
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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thanks for the input and time. it is well appreciated!

the reason why i was concerned about pumps and such is i am a BMW tech and we have multiple S.I.B's on fuel compatability and i personally have seen a few first hand fuel pump failures from not even E85 but high alcohol content fuel.
not saying it would happen to a walbro (i think there very proven pumps)

also do you have any dyno before and afters or time slip before and after?

once again thanks alot

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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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56 views.... 1 response.....

LETS GO CHATTER BOX'S!!!!!
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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I'd like to know more about e85 aswell.

On the stock turbo, I believe that the minimum you need is:
1) Walbro
2) 880cc injectors or higher
3) Tune?

What I really want to know is if there is a tune on the stock *(ecu) that will allow you to switch between E85 and 93 *should you be in an area that does not have E85...

Anyone...
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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I've been running E85 for about 3 months and love it. I'm running a 35R at 26 psi with no knock and plan to bump it up to about 29-30 psi.
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by robertrinaustin
I've been running E85 for about 3 months and love it. I'm running a 35R at 26 psi with no knock and plan to bump it up to about 29-30 psi.
any ill effects? is this really a new super fuel?

i did some searching on the web last night and all of the pro e85 sites talked very much so of the wide use of it in motor sport though out the world! it is all getting me very interested, possibly because its still very foreign to me. kinda like Brazilian girls! see how then both get my attention cause there foreign

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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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11.86@115.76 on C16 and stock ecu/SAFCII with good track conditions...1.67 60ft.

11.75@119.77 on the AEM/E85 with phantom knock (dp hitting t-case probably) with a ****ty 1.8 60ft. 1000cc PTE injectors and single walbro 255.

I would suggest the AEM with a good tuner behind it or a custom flash. My injector cycle duty on 1000cc is 82% at peak load..this is a sweet spot for injectors. I am hoping to go to the 20g9LT and keep the 1000cc injectors and be somewhere in the 90% range on the cycle duty. I will also install a second inline Walbro on a toggle switch to run at WOT and put around town with the intake pump on only.

Unfortunately the car has never seen the dyno...Settings change from the dyno to the street anyways so I believe more in test and tuning the car on the track to reach peak power potential while using knock control on the AEM.
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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that is very good.... this is one of those things that actually has me thinking about cars after work

when tunning for e85 road or dyno, what are some differences you have noticed.
do you just treat it like i higher octane fuel or is there maybe something people (like myself) would over look?
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by matyb
any ill effects? is this really a knew super fuel?

i did some searching on the web last night and all of the pro e85 sites talked very much so of the wide use of it in motor sport though out the world! it is all getting me very interested, possibly because its still very foreign to me. kinda like Brazilian girls! see how then both get my attention cause there foreign
No ill effects so far. It runs great and pulls like mad. I wouldn't be driving with a 35R without E85.
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by matyb
that is very good.... this is one of those things that actually has me thinking about cars after work

when tunning for e85 road or dyno, what are some differences you have noticed.
do you just treat it like i higher octane fuel or is there maybe something people (like myself) would over look?
It likes to run a little leaner, just like other race fuels. The other big thing I noticed is it takes a bunch more fuel for start up and this in the main thing to remember, it takes a bunch more fuel in general, so whatever your upgrade path, go with the biggest injectors you're thinking about.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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Ive been running e85 for 3 months now.
780cc Injectors
Full Blown dual pump
2x Walbro

Pros: Allows alot more timing and alot more boost, alot more power
Cons: Gas mileage is horrible.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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What does your timing look like in the midrange and high range?
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by robertrinaustin
It likes to run a little leaner, just like other race fuels. The other big thing I noticed is it takes a bunch more fuel for start up and this in the main thing to remember, it takes a bunch more fuel in general, so whatever your upgrade path, go with the biggest injectors you're thinking about.
im just losing you alittle... it running leaner as like a race fuel i understand and was kinda expecting, why does it need a bunch more fuel in general. the only thing im seeing in my head for some reason is when guys with alcohol funny cars squirt streams of alcohol into the blower scoop. the only thing is i thought the need for mass amounts when using an alcohol based fuel in a performance application was to kinda hydra lock the motor (thats why they use aluminum rods)

i know all this is soooo soooo different but thats all in kinda know about it and i thought it would be way different when tunning our cars. just curious, elaborate more. i need to know more.

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