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Old May 25, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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Cant agree more!!!
All my bikes have never been babyed and ridden with WOT and vary engine loads
they never used oil and made good power!

i think the tolerances on engines now days are so good it not neccesary

but the oil change is crucial.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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The rings are seated well before 1000mi.

Once the rings are seated there's no point "babying" the car, it's not going to change anything.

I think it's more of an excuse to not stand behind your work. If something goes wrong, the shop could always say "you didn't break it in properly, it's your fault"

Good post Dave! I never understood the 1000mi "break in", but it's good to hear it from you.
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Old May 26, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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Rings are seated within the first 20 miles. Its actually not good to run light loads like most suggest. You need to run some boost through the motor to get the rings to seal almost immediately. I didnt switch out to dino oil, so Im hoping I still got a good seal on my rings. I did run boost through it and drive it like I normally would however.

Ive never believed in the "break it in easy" method. There is a reason why some cars run stronger then others, make more power with same mods, etc. Its the method of break in imho.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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This thread should be sticky
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 20psiMR
Rings are seated within the first 20 miles. Its actually not good to run light loads like most suggest. You need to run some boost through the motor to get the rings to seal almost immediately. I didnt switch out to dino oil, so Im hoping I still got a good seal on my rings. I did run boost through it and drive it like I normally would however.

Ive never believed in the "break it in easy" method. There is a reason why some cars run stronger then others, make more power with same mods, etc. Its the method of break in imho.

it's true..
when i got my e7 back in 01 it was slightly faster than other stock e7's

I contributed that to the fact that I hammered it as soon as I got it..
no "babying" whatsoever
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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Good info.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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I totaly agree Ive built many Honda motors and there isnt a breal in peroid break it in like your going to drive it is how i do it and i never had an engine fail yet.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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I Agree 100%

Most exotic cars never see 1,000 miles.

We have a $180,000 Porsche turbo convert in our shop getting Stage II now which has 157 miles. No way that car will be driven anywhere but on the dyno.

When you have a 1000 up evo like mine break in is not feasable.

Of course a short break is not going to hurt anything but your pysche.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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When I got my EVO I ran it hard off the showroom floor.....

I broke it in hard.....
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
It is nothing to have a car with less than 10 miles on it at 40 psi of boost and 10,000 rpm. If it is going to fail then it is going to fail at that point and running it for 2,000 miles easy is not going to change that.
and who is going to pay for the failure of a brand new David Buschur Engine to replace? hahahahahahhaa

just playing....good post, thanks, came just in time for me.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Just for kicks I did some research on how the Porsche turbo engines are made

First - one guy builds each motor from start to finish by hand

(Just like Buschur)

Second - the engine is dynoed right away

(just like Buschur)

Once the engines are built, they are fitted into a tray with coolant lines and a fuel line. The motor is then hooked up to the Dyno in a sound proof room, and put through the paces for 30 minutes. Porsche refers to this as the “Hot Test”. The engine must produce at least 100% of it’s rated horsepower, or it is unacceptable. How is that for a quality commitment?!? We saw rows and rows of engine trays, with hot coolant still in them from the multiple Hot Test. It is mind boggling to think of how much cumulative horsepower was in that engine assembly room. It would make any racer giddy with excitement!
Interesting how great minds think alike
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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porsche... you get what you pay for.. the 997 is probably the best bang for the buck of any exotic..
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 05:01 AM
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so im almost set on droping new pistons and rods in my motor, whats the best way to "break in" the new rings?

reg non synthetic 10w30 oil for about 500 miles

then change oil and repeat for another few hundred with non synthetic?

should i throw some boost at it right away? not WOT but like 5-10psi?

also i have alky, should i disconect my alky?
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by deadbeatrec
so im almost set on droping new pistons and rods in my motor, whats the best way to "break in" the new rings?

reg non synthetic 10w30 oil for about 500 miles

then change oil and repeat for another few hundred with non synthetic?

should i throw some boost at it right away? not WOT but like 5-10psi?

also i have alky, should i disconect my alky?
I would like to know this also. Does Meth injection affect the rings setting in?

Should you run spring pressure for a while, like at least 50mi or something before turning it up?

My 4g64 doesn't have squirters built in, how will that affect the rings setting in?
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 07:26 AM
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ive assembled a few honda motors and when i send a block to the machine shop
jg engine dynamics he does a race hone on it and it breaks in a little while
the cars usually go from turning the last bolt to the dyno.
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