Your probly not going to get any solid, unbiased info until "94AWDCOUPE" finishes his intercooler testing..

It's been a couple months already with no results, so who knows how soon you'll get some answers. But, that test will probly tell you what your looking for.

 

Anything greater than a 15 to 20 degrees over atmospheric temps is really really excessive, assuming the intercooler has a good amount of air flowing over it.
This is dependent on the turbo a little bit to, as some will heat the air much more than others....
Pressure drops ought to be less than 4psi or so for a good intercooler.

but there is a trade off,,, less pressure drop will mean higher temps, as the air has a smaller opportunity to cool...

Anyone who says their intercooler cools below the ambient temp is lying or sparying it with cold water and not telling you. even if they drive thru fog...

Anyone who says the intercooler exit temps and the ambient temps are identical are lying, or have invented the first perfect 100% effeciency cross flow intercooler ever. They haven't. they are lying. You would need a near infinite area to accomplish that and an evo's front grill opening is pretty small.....

 

Bushur, AMS or Neisi are the only ones to get.

 

I think this is what you're looking for. The guy who started this thread is interested in the same thing you are. He's doing a test of the temp before and after the intercooler on the race track with many different intercoolers.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...tercooler+test

 

I was told by a very reputable tuner that around 20 degrees celcius over ambient was a pretty good intercooler. Same tuner said Buschur was full of it when they claimed just a couple degrees fahrenheight over ambient.

I'm just trying to figure out what to expect from various intercoolers. We are all buying these products, but honestly this thread shows nobody has any idea whether what they bought performs well or not.

 

If you are not satisfied with what everyone else is saying or suggesting, then the only thing to do is to buy all of the intercoolers yourself and test them.

 

For the money the intercooler I would go with is a precision. They use garrett cores just like some of the ones sold here, but are not as high priced and perform great. They are proven and lots of high hp cars use them.

 

My point is.. all of us can say brand x or y... but nobody has a clue how well it should actually perform. It's just quite funny.

And the sad thing is, all this talk of intercooler tests... it's not necessary. Anyone running an AEM or other standalone will know what their intake temps are... but I tried to solicit data for this and hardly anybody replied.

Lame!

By the way I run the AMS intercooler and see over 20 degrees celcius over ambient. So all that say AMS is so great, that is not what I've seen in my experience. If AMS or some AMS intercooler user wants to chime in with some datalogs... please do!

 

AKAIK David @ bushcur was the only one to actually post temps. According to what i have read in various books, including Cork Bells, there are two important things. Pressure drop across the intercooler and the efficiency at removing heat.

From what I have read you shoot for 1 - 2 psi drop across the intercooler and about 60-70 % efficiency at removing heat

So ideally you want the intake temps before and after say 150 and after 80 degrees on a 50 F day with no more than 2 psi drop from before and after the intercooler

If the before and after temp is 80 and 76 then you have found a really good place to get cool air but know nothing about the actual heat removal ability of the intercooler. And if it drops 4 psi while doing so then you got a problem of volume of air going into the engine, despite it being cooler

The entire thing is to measure temps and pressure before and after . Then you will know. If you cant afford that then guess and puff your chest and say it cost me $500 it must be good or thats what every one is using 'cos its cheap or from ebay so its better.

End of story

Milburn

 

Anyone have any experience with the APS intercooler? I've heard it works really well(triple core).

 

Anyone?

 

what you're looking at is the temp delta across te intercooler. you wanna know the temperature rise after the turbo and the drop after the cooler.

simple to see just put the sensors in the right place. an intercooler's cooling abilities are for the purpose of RELIABILITY and CONSISTANCY. more horsepower may be a byproduct of the two but horsepower comes from more air flow, cooling only helps that, but is not THAT by definition.

 

Ams!!!

 

Not one person on this damn website has any idea how well their intercooler should perform.

Stock IC, AMS IC, AMS Race, APS, Buschur Deluxe, Greddy, HKS IC, etc...

Nobody has a fricken clue how well they should work. It's hilarious. Especially because all you really need is a intake temp sensor which every speed density system has. So if some people on here running AEM, Autronic, etc would get off their *** and post some data we might be in business.

 

I lay'd out some $$$ this past weekend and got myself a li'l gift for being such a nice guy. Got the AMS FMIC and LICP.
All I can say is that the FMIC is a monster. Just waiting for my beatrush under tray
then its wrench time.
AMS and Buschar have proven results as was mentioned before. They are not JDM, but they do run with the big dogs.