115 oct w/ 93oct map
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115 oct w/ 93oct map
Ok, so after getting some advice, everyone is saying that even on a 93 octane map, if you put in higher octane and up the boost it will for sure make a difference.
After running this weekend, i used turbo blue 115 octane and turned up the boost to 28-30 psi and the car ran better at 22psi than it did at 30psi. I really dont have the time or the money right now to be driving outta state and paying for another custom tune for the race gas.
Was I doing something wrong, should I have really noticed a difference? What about doing another mail flash?
After running this weekend, i used turbo blue 115 octane and turned up the boost to 28-30 psi and the car ran better at 22psi than it did at 30psi. I really dont have the time or the money right now to be driving outta state and paying for another custom tune for the race gas.
Was I doing something wrong, should I have really noticed a difference? What about doing another mail flash?
It should have been much better, but you may h ave turned up the boost TOO much. Your 3065 is a whole different animal than the stock turbo. On the stock turbo, we can toss in a few gallons of race gas and turn up the boost 3-4psi. That gains us 30-40whp. You turned up your boost 6-8psi on a MUCH LARGER turbo, so I'm sure it was freaking out your MAF and ECU.
Just use EcuFlash and get an email tune for race gas as long as you have logging abilities and a wideband.
Just use EcuFlash and get an email tune for race gas as long as you have logging abilities and a wideband.
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ya i was trying to log and see if it was knocking, but i forgot to click knock sum wen i did my log....im still trying to learn how to use the ecuflash and adjust timing and fuel on my own
i'm gonna see if jester can do me another flash but hes hard to get ahold of..
i'm gonna see if jester can do me another flash but hes hard to get ahold of..
Depending on how your map is currently tuned, upping the boost from 22psi to 30psi will move you into a much higher load column, which, if tuned like normal, will give you much lower timing and richer fueling.
Leaded gas needs much more timing to burn correctly than unleaded as well.
To really make more power you need a different tune for higher boost and octane.
Leaded gas needs much more timing to burn correctly than unleaded as well.
To really make more power you need a different tune for higher boost and octane.
It should have been much better, but you may h ave turned up the boost TOO much. Your 3065 is a whole different animal than the stock turbo. On the stock turbo, we can toss in a few gallons of race gas and turn up the boost 3-4psi. That gains us 30-40whp. You turned up your boost 6-8psi on a MUCH LARGER turbo, so I'm sure it was freaking out your MAF and ECU.
Just use EcuFlash and get an email tune for race gas as long as you have logging abilities and a wideband.
Just use EcuFlash and get an email tune for race gas as long as you have logging abilities and a wideband.
Turning up the boost will land you in load cells in the ECU with different programmming. Most times the timing is LOWER and AFR RICHER in the higher load cells, throw some cold racefuel on top of that and you will go slower.
More octane + less timing + richer AFR programming + richer AFR due to octane = slower car.
This is the exact reason the notion of "DUAL MAPS" is such a joke of a sales act.
LESSON: Use the car in the conditions and for the octane the car was tuned for and you will receive the best results.
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Ok, thanks for all the advice, so i emailed Jester and I guess we'll see if I hear back from him I know he's hard to get ahold of....otherwise I'll head down to Buschur again and have Al tune it again
I need to learn how to adjust timing and loads more accordingly..
I need to learn how to adjust timing and loads more accordingly..
It is because Dynoflash, your sponsor did not taper the ignition timing as one should when the load increases on an ignition timing map.
There have been many discussions on how "block timing" is not the proper way to safely tune as load and boost increases it will become more dangerous as boost increases at the same ignition timing.
I was feeling the same thing, but i only turned the boost up to 27 (with the 93 octane map). The car didn't feel as fast as i thought it would but i figured that i wasn't running near the timing and i was dumping a **** ton of fuel.
After getting tuned at 29psi with the AEM I can finally say the car is a whole different animal on race gas
After getting tuned at 29psi with the AEM I can finally say the car is a whole different animal on race gas
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Do you really want to open that can of worms? OK...
It is because Dynoflash, your sponsor did not taper the ignition timing as one should when the load increases on an ignition timing map.
There have been many discussions on how "block timing" is not the proper way to safely tune as load and boost increases it will become more dangerous as boost increases at the same ignition timing.
It is because Dynoflash, your sponsor did not taper the ignition timing as one should when the load increases on an ignition timing map.
There have been many discussions on how "block timing" is not the proper way to safely tune as load and boost increases it will become more dangerous as boost increases at the same ignition timing.
Do you really want to open that can of worms? OK...
It is because Dynoflash, your sponsor did not taper the ignition timing as one should when the load increases on an ignition timing map.
There have been many discussions on how "block timing" is not the proper way to safely tune as load and boost increases it will become more dangerous as boost increases at the same ignition timing.
It is because Dynoflash, your sponsor did not taper the ignition timing as one should when the load increases on an ignition timing map.
There have been many discussions on how "block timing" is not the proper way to safely tune as load and boost increases it will become more dangerous as boost increases at the same ignition timing.
Do you really want to open that can of worms? OK...
It is because Dynoflash, your sponsor did not taper the ignition timing as one should when the load increases on an ignition timing map.
There have been many discussions on how "block timing" is not the proper way to safely tune as load and boost increases it will become more dangerous as boost increases at the same ignition timing.
It is because Dynoflash, your sponsor did not taper the ignition timing as one should when the load increases on an ignition timing map.
There have been many discussions on how "block timing" is not the proper way to safely tune as load and boost increases it will become more dangerous as boost increases at the same ignition timing.
That is interesting...
But not an accurate example of the effects of higher boost on an ECU map, free from MAF signal altering piggyback ECU input as you had on your car at the time.