Buschur kits are available with a tubular manifold.

I will be sending my money Buschurs way once they release the HTA 35R (hint, hint). AMS is top notch also, just more then I want to pay for looks and not a power gain.

 

wow your just full of bad idea's on the part list.

AMS is better known on the streets ... are you feeling OK?

Ams is prolly better known in Chicago. But thats about it.

 

AMS is better knowin in chicago?AMS is known everywhere!the main thing that got them the hype/famous is the videos they made of the infamous black evo in florida etc etc...they became known with the videos,but ALSO with there high quality parts and performance.

you cant say there better known in chicago and thats about it..everyone knows AMS,even the muscle car,srt4,viper guys ive ran against here in hawaii..

 

In 300 turbo kits we have not cracked a manifold. This is why we offer a lifetime waranty on the header.

Please do not make assumptions.

Cast manifolds can crack over time too. ask any 1G/2G DSM owner.

Eric

 

We have sold turbo kits to over 25 different countries and 5 continents. Your statement could not be farther from the truth.

Poeple are here to inquire about turbo kits, not to hear biased views from both sides of the fence. if you dont have any hard input on the products please keep your views to themselves so the thread poster can make his or her decision.

Whether you are hard core buschur or AMS fan if you don't have hard input you are not doing the potential buyer any good


Eric

 

Here is an unbiased comparison a member of our forums put together. We believe both kits have proved themselves countless times, this is what he thought:

" let's look at the stuff that comes with the AMS kit vs what comes with the buschur kit. We'll use the GT35R kit for example.


AMS GT35R Kit

Recirculated wastegate dump with the option to have it vented and knock off $100
AMS 304 SS Thick Wall Tubular header
Garrett GT35R True Dual Ball Bearing Turbocharger
SS 3" Tubular O2 housing
SS 3" Downpipe
Tial 38mm Wastegate (Slip Fit Recirculated Dump)
High Flow Slim Line Fan
Lightweight Polished Aluminum Intake Pipe with K&N Filter
Lightweight Polished Aluminum Lower Intercooler Pipe
Braided Stainless Oil Feed Line
Oil Return & Coolant Lines
All necessary hardware and gaskets

The kit also includes detailed install instructions
High quality silicone couplers
comes preassembled

I had an AMS Super 60 kit on my GSX. The kits really are high quality.



Buschur Racing GT35R Kit

To start, you need the Buschur FMIC, because their LICP that comes with the kit won't fit any other intercoolers according to them. The site tells you that first thing when you look at a kit.

Ball Bearing GT35R Turbocharger
BR Produced Cast Exhaust Manifold (from NI-Resist material)
TiAL 44mm External Wastegate
Stainless Steel O2 Housing
Replacement Low Profile Cooling Fan
Oil Feed Line
Oil Return Line
Misc. Fittings
Hardware
Gaskets Note: Our kit utilizes the factory water lines.


So on a side by side comparison it would look like this:

Turbo

AMS
GT35RL with choice of options or use the AMS recommended setup

Buschur
GT35RL with choice of options or BR's recommended setup

Manifold

AMS
304SS Thick wall
tubular header
Lifetime limited
warranty

BR reproduced stock manifold Ni-resist material and larger runners

Hardware/
Gaskets

AMS
All new gaskets included
Comes with SS Oil Feed
and Oil return line

Buschur
Gaskets included with bolts, stock water line must be reused and tweaked. Comes with oil feed/return line.


Wastegate

AMS
TiAL 38mm wastegate
with recirc slip fit dump
vented take $100 off price

Buschur TiAL 44mm wastegate, costs extra to recirc.


Extras

AMS
3" SS tubular o2 housing
3" SS downpipe
AMS LICP
Low profile fan
Lightweight polished intake
pipe with K&N Filter

Buschur
SS o2 housing
Replacement low profile fan
BR LICP


Both are great kits, but that's why there is a price difference."




http://www.amsperformance.com/forum/...?showtopic=515

 

Cough full race or AFI or bust!

 

By the way, I am not posting this to prove one kit better than the other. My point is to show an example of a mature, intelligent and unbiased comparison by an open minded consumer that used fact instead of emotion in a decision making process.

 

What are your plans for the car? Street? Drag? Daily Drive?

 

I do appreciate that post Santiago. It is a very good comparison.

As a quick note.... our turbo kit does match up to the AMS FMIC as well as the Nisei. As for the other companies out there I can not vouch for those but to be totally honest I do not think you will find a better FUNCTIONAL FMIC than the AMS, Nisei or our Buschur Racing FMIC.

To add to that post. This was my response to a post similar to that of the one you posted.

"As I mentioned.... our kit is available with the tubular manifold. The price would then be $3895 and it would then come with the downpipe. The AMS 35R kit is $4689.95. We would assume if you are buying a turbo kit you would already have a downpipe. The reason they offer one with their kit is im guessing the placement of the turbo is different and requires it. That is why we include one with our tubular manifold turbo kits.

As for the dump.... putting a dump in isnt really a big deal and it really doesnt take more money to do so. We do not offer it with our kit as room is limited and we recommend them to be open.

Our turbo kit comes with a turbo outlet pipe that adapts to our lower IC pipe as well as other companies. Aluminum does absorb heat BTW.

Why do you need coolant lines if you can re-use the ones you currently have. It keeps costs down for both the shop and the customer. Its like ordering a fresh pizza when you have a left over from the night before in the fridge. Its still good. Why not eat it?

Something you did not point out is the wastegates used. We use a TiAL 44mm w/g instead of the 38mm. Which is a bit higher in price over the 38mm.

Also they do coat their manifold. We do offer coating. The price is $150. Their's is included.

We get along with AMS very well as everyone knows and each person has their preference. I just wanted to point out a few other things. If there was only one shop manufacturing and selling parts the car industry would be a pretty boring place."

 

Looks like he missed a couple of those things in his comparison, he was in fact going off the descriptions we had on our sites at the time.

The 44mm wastegate is indeed quite a bit more money, fortunately we were able to continue a highly efficient design we first used in our DSM turbo kits that places the wastegate on the o2 housing. This allows for use of the smaller 38mm gate with no adverse effect.

We offer an optional high temp. silver coating at the same price, $150.

I guess it'd be a good idea for us to hang out in this thread and make sure we separate fact from fiction when it comes to our (AutoMotoSport's and Buschur's) kits. That way no one is misinformed nor mislead.

 

Donkey!

Good info guys, always a tough decision between these 2 companies. You can't go wrong either way.

 

vendor fight!!!

u know what iwould like to see.....

one car, some mods and 2 different kits. a shootout. lets do it!!!

 

You bring the and im all game to hangout. I'll bring the burgers and horseshoes.


Who's fighting? Did you READ the post by myself and AMS?

 

I'll see you sir in Norwalk this weekend. BTW, I didn't tell you but it's a certain someone's birthday this weekend, we should have a couple . He might be the sales manager here? I think he's going to be 30-something?