has anybody in here dyno'd a 20glt without cams and fmic?
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i went back to stock cams and the ticking went away also the lifters i tested them and they hold oil fine havent had the problem with oem cams
here is a dyno from dll from an evo using the 20glt 91oct 22psi base tune it hitted 333whp with a tune 368whp this evo has all the supporting mods:
here is a dyno from dll from an evo using the 20glt 91oct 22psi base tune it hitted 333whp with a tune 368whp this evo has all the supporting mods:
Maybe you had a bad pair of cams, I dont know. No one else has that problem so it seems to be isolated to just you.
This dyno doesnt show me much. Also, it looks like a dynocomp which reads higher than a dynojet
This dyno doesnt show me much. Also, it looks like a dynocomp which reads higher than a dynojet
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cant wait to test it with vp109about the cams thats what i thought maybe they where in bad shape if i go this route with the 20glt ill be buying the gsc cams only good things i read from them.
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i think warrtalon was one in which his car didnt gain any horsepower when installing cams just a comment ok.
in my car using DLL i only had 13whp gain with 91oct i dont know if its cause iam at 3300feet of altitude or cause of the tick tap nosie they made during warmup i even made a thread a couple months ago.
in my car using DLL i only had 13whp gain with 91oct i dont know if its cause iam at 3300feet of altitude or cause of the tick tap nosie they made during warmup i even made a thread a couple months ago.
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here's what my car did when I put on the HKS 280's and re-tuned it. I'm with them, the stock cams are going to hold you back some because you're going to have to run more boost to move as much air as a cammed car and you're bound to hit knock first.
I have a 20GLT, Ported stock Mani ordered and I'm going to be ordering a FMIC soon...it should be interesting.
I have a 20GLT, Ported stock Mani ordered and I'm going to be ordering a FMIC soon...it should be interesting.
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I think that JR had a bad experience with a valvetrain clicking noise once the engine was warm, though it was very slight(It didn't bother me), but he wasn't happy with it. Also, I think that his HKS cams were improperly installed, without applying camshaft install lube to the lobe surfaces and lifter faces, or the bearing surfaces.
Tolerances were affected due to use of an innacurate torque wrench creating tolerance stacking along the camshaft, with a slight galling of the microfinish on one of the camshaft bearing surfaces. I think too that after removal, when he miked his HKS cam, that one of the cam bearing surfaces was a tad undersized, or on the lower end of the tolerance range.
Ever since this experience JR has been afraid to do the aftermarket camshaft thing again
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here's what my car did when I put on the HKS 280's and re-tuned it. I'm with them, the stock cams are going to hold you back some because you're going to have to run more boost to move as much air as a cammed car and you're bound to hit knock first.
I have a 20GLT, Ported stock Mani ordered and I'm going to be ordering a FMIC soon...it should be interesting.

I have a 20GLT, Ported stock Mani ordered and I'm going to be ordering a FMIC soon...it should be interesting.

sparky your right i dont like anything funny going in my engine maybe with some new cams and proper instalation they will be ok but you must help me
putting a 20g lt turbo with stock cams & cam gears is not a very good parts match.....you cant take advantage of what you have.
it's kinda like running a 3.5" exhaust with a stock cat
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I agree WOT! JR is running his stock cams way retarded at the -5i/-5e setting, already. After driving my car he´s convinced that the 20G-LT is for real. So hopefully he´ll gradually come over fully to the Dark Side, and end up doing the FMIC and the cams as well.
I'm not disagreeing with, but I find it funny that you tell the guy not to listen to random people on the internet when YOU are one of those random people on the internet
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Uhh no I am not. I give people the correct advice and how to go fast the most reliable way like I have done. I know what works and what doesnt. Buying a 20G with stock cams is a waste of money and the people selling it (buschur) will tell you the same exact thing. So if youd like to show me how thats incorrect information, be my guest. Until then, you can STFU
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i would get cam gears to tweak the cams accordingly, -5/-5 to allow the engine to breath @ a higher rpm, taking advantage of having the 20g-lt turbo....
putting a 20g lt turbo with stock cams & cam gears is not a very good parts match.....you cant take advantage of what you have.
it's kinda like running a 3.5" exhaust with a stock cat
putting a 20g lt turbo with stock cams & cam gears is not a very good parts match.....you cant take advantage of what you have.
it's kinda like running a 3.5" exhaust with a stock cat

i will first try the 20g,injectors,fmic and the exhaust ported manifold from bushur racing with my stock cams set at -5,-5 and see what whp i put down if i put at least 360whp on pumpgas (91oct) ill be happy if not ill get the cams
Uhh no I am not. I give people the correct advice and how to go fast the most reliable way like I have done. I know what works and what doesnt. Buying a 20G with stock cams is a waste of money and the people selling it (buschur) will tell you the same exact thing. So if youd like to show me how thats incorrect information, be my guest. Until then, you can STFU 
The reality is, your an just another guy who posts on a message board. You could have invented the combustion engine and no one would know it based on your Evom ID.






