Looking to get green turbo
Forced Perormance can use the center housing as well as the turbine housing from your VIII turbo in building an EvoGreen. They would, however, need to supply you with a IX compressor housing, milled out for the Green's larger compressor wheel.
As far as the turbine housing goes, either of the two USDM spec VIII turbine housings can be used in building your Green. So yes, they can build you a Green turbo, using your existing stock VIII turbo as a starting point. Call them.
As far as the turbine housing goes, either of the two USDM spec VIII turbine housings can be used in building your Green. So yes, they can build you a Green turbo, using your existing stock VIII turbo as a starting point. Call them.
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ok, so you reffered to it as the CHRA as the entire assembly. it is sometimes reffered to as the center cartridge. the IX CHRA is not the same as the VIII CHRA.
I also agree with you that neither the VIII compressor housing, nor the 16G compressor wheel are used on the EvoGreen in its current iteration. If I'm not mistaken though, I think that FP did for a while convert customers' VIII 16G's ito EvoGreens.
As a practical matter it is physically possible to machine the VIII compressor housing to accept the FP 69 mm compressor wheel. There are a few of these running around.
Just to set my mind straight...When you say that the center cartridge is larger, what exactly do you mean? Large, compared to what?
The cast center housing on all 16G's(and the Green) is identical, AFAIK.
I agree with you that the IX compressor housing is larger than the VIII compressor housing.
I also agree with you that neither the VIII compressor housing, nor the 16G compressor wheel are used on the EvoGreen in its current iteration. If I'm not mistaken though, I think that FP did for a while convert customers' VIII 16G's ito EvoGreens.
I also agree with you that neither the VIII compressor housing, nor the 16G compressor wheel are used on the EvoGreen in its current iteration. If I'm not mistaken though, I think that FP did for a while convert customers' VIII 16G's ito EvoGreens.
As a practical matter it is physically possible to machine the VIII compressor housing to accept the FP 69 mm compressor wheel. There are a few of these running around.
Just to set my mind straight...When you say that the center cartridge is larger, what exactly do you mean? Large, compared to what?
The cast center housing on all 16G's(and the Green) is identical, AFAIK.
Just to set my mind straight...When you say that the center cartridge is larger, what exactly do you mean? Large, compared to what?
The cast center housing on all 16G's(and the Green) is identical, AFAIK.
the physical dimensions of the center cartidge is larger, ie, the outer radius. the CHRA inserts into the compressor housing, so when you have larger compressor housing, you must have a large diameter CHRA. i have rebuilt the VIII and IX turbo's and i have seen the difference first hand.
Do you realize that our discourse is divergent. The turbocharger is composed of three cast iron housings: 1) Compressor housing, 2) turbine housing, and, 3) center housing.
I apologize for the misunderstanding. The CHRA(center housing rotating assembly) includes the cast iron center housing as well as the rotating assembly, which is composed of the shaft and the two wheels, and I think the term includes the bearing assembly and seals as well.
I'm too lazy to Google the term center cartridge in the Garrett Glossary.But, what you refer to as cartridge does in fact exist and is distinguished from the more inclusive term, CHRA. The cartridge, is I think, part of the CHRA. I think now that cartridge is the two wheels mounted on the shaft as an assembly.
I apologize for the misunderstanding. The CHRA(center housing rotating assembly) includes the cast iron center housing as well as the rotating assembly, which is composed of the shaft and the two wheels, and I think the term includes the bearing assembly and seals as well.
I'm too lazy to Google the term center cartridge in the Garrett Glossary.But, what you refer to as cartridge does in fact exist and is distinguished from the more inclusive term, CHRA. The cartridge, is I think, part of the CHRA. I think now that cartridge is the two wheels mounted on the shaft as an assembly.
maybe i have my terminology wrong. i was reffering to the cartridge as the cast peice were all the bearings, wheels and shafts mount inside it. the CHRA is the entire assembly together.
although, all the inner components of the CHRA are the same between the 2 turbos, the outer cast peice/shell is not.
although, all the inner components of the CHRA are the same between the 2 turbos, the outer cast peice/shell is not.
yes FP did convert VIII turbo's, but they are now facing a shortage of IX compressor housings. That is why they are only doing the IX conversion. the physical dimensions of the center cartidge is larger, ie, the outer radius. the CHRA inserts into the compressor housing, so when you have larger compressor housing, you must have a large diameter CHRA. i have rebuilt the VIII and IX turbo's and i have seen the difference first hand.
I have raced other Evos with more HP than you. 4-6 cars to 170+,
.Take a look at my numbers in the graph, my car makes 110 more whp than yours at 7,500 rpms:
That is enough to walk you all over, and leave you in the dust,
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Yours:
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Jason