Turbo Decision...3071r
Turbo Decision...3071r
Hey I was looking into getting a turbo set-up for my IX... I have a few questions specificly about the Gt3071r Turbo. I'm liking this turbo because of the "All-purpose" factor it has... AutoCross, Road Racing, Drag (Low 11's) and beast on the streets. Im looking to get 450 to 500 hp on meth/race gas.. I might be asking too much.
WHat will the spool look like assuming I have GSC S1 Cams or Cosi (havent decided).... And when will it hit full boost?
WHats the range of this turbo... Can it handle 30 psi?
Thanks All
Mods...
-AMS TUNED
-AMS TBE
-AMS FMIC
-AMS I/C piping
-Walbro 255lph Pump
-Exedy Single Clutch
-Cone Style Air Filter
-MBC @ 21 psi
WHat will the spool look like assuming I have GSC S1 Cams or Cosi (havent decided).... And when will it hit full boost?
WHats the range of this turbo... Can it handle 30 psi?
Thanks All
Mods...
-AMS TUNED
-AMS TBE
-AMS FMIC
-AMS I/C piping
-Walbro 255lph Pump
-Exedy Single Clutch
-Cone Style Air Filter
-MBC @ 21 psi
Experience or personal??
I've compared both .. if you have an IX turbo .. you're better off with something else than a green ..
In fact I've even compared both to JDM IX magnesium turbo (newer series) .. I'd take that over both ..
The 155mG is not too shabby too .. but it will fall quite shy of the 450hp requirements .. but you'll never beat the spool on the 155 .. it'll leave EVERYONE for dead in 5th gear at 2500rpms
The GT3071 is only rated to 45lb flow .. so you'd also be hard pressed to get 450hp ..
The Green has rating higher than the GT .. but real life .. I've not seen it flowing more than the GT3071 boost for boost ..
I've compared both .. if you have an IX turbo .. you're better off with something else than a green ..
In fact I've even compared both to JDM IX magnesium turbo (newer series) .. I'd take that over both ..
The 155mG is not too shabby too .. but it will fall quite shy of the 450hp requirements .. but you'll never beat the spool on the 155 .. it'll leave EVERYONE for dead in 5th gear at 2500rpms
The GT3071 is only rated to 45lb flow .. so you'd also be hard pressed to get 450hp ..
The Green has rating higher than the GT .. but real life .. I've not seen it flowing more than the GT3071 boost for boost ..
my 2 cents.
the green is a better turbo to drive around with. dyno numbers are similar unless u run additives.
upto 30 psi the green is a very sweet turbo.
i think if your searchin for a turbo upgrade and your comin from a ix turbo, both the green and 3071 isnt gonna make you much more power for the $$$ your spendin.
i have this problem where i'm not gonna gain much from a ix turbo to a green to a 3071.
the next size up is like a 3076/3037 which is an awesome turbo, but again much $$$ for small increase.
i WAS gonna go gt35r, but i may jus try a 57 trim or a 3065.
the green is a better turbo to drive around with. dyno numbers are similar unless u run additives.
upto 30 psi the green is a very sweet turbo.
i think if your searchin for a turbo upgrade and your comin from a ix turbo, both the green and 3071 isnt gonna make you much more power for the $$$ your spendin.
i have this problem where i'm not gonna gain much from a ix turbo to a green to a 3071.
the next size up is like a 3076/3037 which is an awesome turbo, but again much $$$ for small increase.
i WAS gonna go gt35r, but i may jus try a 57 trim or a 3065.
I've said it many times... you may not be able to bolt a green onto a stage 1 Evo and make 100whp more like you could with a bigger GT turbo, but if you build it correctly, it will make great power, enough to put you into the 10's with stock-like spool and without breaking the bank.
A Green with ported ex mani, O2 housing, intake mani, throttle body, and a full IC & pipe kit is completely different.... those are all things you just replace when you buy a $5000 GT kit (or SHOULD add to your $3000 kit to make it worth the investment and time).
I'd rather port my stock stuff rather than buying new parts.
I'd rather keep my stock powerband of 3500RPM to 7000RPM than be forced to rev to 8000 to make peak power.
And I'd rather save a couple thousand dollars doing so, while making essentially the same power with stock-ish looks and fitment
But that's just me. Some people would rather jump right into a GT kit on stock FMIC & piping, stock intake mani & TB, and just say "Look I can rev to 8000 and make 450whp"
Last edited by recompile; Oct 20, 2007 at 02:42 AM.
I respectfully disagree.
I've said it many times... you may not be able to bolt a green onto a stage 1 Evo and make 100whp more like you could with a bigger GT turbo, but if you build it correctly, it will make great power, enough to put you into the 10's with stock-like spool and without breaking the bank.
A Green with ported ex mani, O2 housing, intake mani, throttle body, and a full IC & pipe kit is completely different.... those are all things you buy new when you buy a $5000 GT kit (or SHOULD add to your $3000 kit to make it worth the investment and time).
I'd rather port my stock stuff rather than buying new parts.
I'd rather keep my stock powerband of 3500RPM to 7000RPM than be forced to rev to 8000 to make peak power.
And I'd rather save a couple thousand dollars doing so, while making essentially the same power with stock-ish looks and fitment
But that's just me. Some people would rather jump right into a GT kit on stock FMIC & piping, stock intake mani & TB, and just say "Look I can rev to 8000 and make 450whp"
I've said it many times... you may not be able to bolt a green onto a stage 1 Evo and make 100whp more like you could with a bigger GT turbo, but if you build it correctly, it will make great power, enough to put you into the 10's with stock-like spool and without breaking the bank.
A Green with ported ex mani, O2 housing, intake mani, throttle body, and a full IC & pipe kit is completely different.... those are all things you buy new when you buy a $5000 GT kit (or SHOULD add to your $3000 kit to make it worth the investment and time).
I'd rather port my stock stuff rather than buying new parts.
I'd rather keep my stock powerband of 3500RPM to 7000RPM than be forced to rev to 8000 to make peak power.
And I'd rather save a couple thousand dollars doing so, while making essentially the same power with stock-ish looks and fitment
But that's just me. Some people would rather jump right into a GT kit on stock FMIC & piping, stock intake mani & TB, and just say "Look I can rev to 8000 and make 450whp"
no predjudice, but read my post again
quote = the green is a better turbo to drive around with
quote - upto 30 psi the green is a sweet turbo,
jus if your spendin grands on a turbo kit, 4get the 3071
oh and yes a green will hit 10's if your LUCKY, and a ix turbo will hit 11's EASY.
and yes i ported my elbow and mani when i ran a green with a fmic and cams, so at least we're on the same page, same book.
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now that there are plenty of dyno #'s and track times out for the Green, I can't imagine spending the money on a 3071 kit to have similar power but less torque for more $$$
Thanks for all the opinions, facts, BS. I know the 3076r has more top end but I want some SERIOUS Mid-range with decent top end.
3071r
3076r
35r
I guess I want full spool before 4 grand. Somewhere in the 3600 rpm range.
What about a 50trim DBB?
3071r
3076r
35r
I guess I want full spool before 4 grand. Somewhere in the 3600 rpm range.
What about a 50trim DBB?
If you are wanting full spool by 3600 RPM, then none of the 30R´s are for you. Between the 3071 and 3076, the 3071 spools up faster, but still there is nothing to write home about before 4200 RPM. For the street, and on pump gas, it is a dog compared to the Green. Anyone telling you different has been smoking.
why waste money on a 3071...go wit a 3076 which well make more power...or go 3065...thats the best choices unless u wanna go with the evo gree...search the evo many ppl lately have been makein a lot of power with it...buti say 3076 or if u wanna go bigger buschur 3065..
Go with a 35r then ull easily go low 11s on pump and meth....with tires....
Actually get a tune for 100ct instead (safer) 27psi and ull do it...
3071 will die after like 7500rpm
This spool issue is getting ridiculous....If your planning to drag race the car, from the line it doesnt matter about spool up because you have ur two step ( GET AN AEM BTW- Nothing better)
If you plan to road race then I can see a concern....but a 2.3 will take care of that nicely. But its seems like your more intrested in drag.
And if you come across a little street race ( especially from a roll your going to wish you had the top end power of the 35r...) that 3071 wont do much if you come across a nice vette/viper/ or decently modified stang/camaro. Hell I drive a 2.0 with a 37r on the street almost EVERYDAY and really It is very streetable. I dont get this "streetable" meaning. I can pass cars with ease, I can drive slow/fast, race at the track or w/e fine....no different then stock. obviously Im not going to floor the car at 3000rpm, Ill down shift into the proper gear and go. If you want a stock spool up feel then stay with the stock turbo. U should be able to go 11s with a stock turbo (8 or 9).
And lastly.... Idc how much HP u have, $$ cant by driving skills. Sure have ppl gone 10s on 30rs and greens and stock turbos yes....BUT DRIVING COMES INTO PLAY and how the car is set up. Ive seen ppl with 500whp go 12s because they dont know what they are doing.
Actually get a tune for 100ct instead (safer) 27psi and ull do it...
3071 will die after like 7500rpm
This spool issue is getting ridiculous....If your planning to drag race the car, from the line it doesnt matter about spool up because you have ur two step ( GET AN AEM BTW- Nothing better)
If you plan to road race then I can see a concern....but a 2.3 will take care of that nicely. But its seems like your more intrested in drag.
And if you come across a little street race ( especially from a roll your going to wish you had the top end power of the 35r...) that 3071 wont do much if you come across a nice vette/viper/ or decently modified stang/camaro. Hell I drive a 2.0 with a 37r on the street almost EVERYDAY and really It is very streetable. I dont get this "streetable" meaning. I can pass cars with ease, I can drive slow/fast, race at the track or w/e fine....no different then stock. obviously Im not going to floor the car at 3000rpm, Ill down shift into the proper gear and go. If you want a stock spool up feel then stay with the stock turbo. U should be able to go 11s with a stock turbo (8 or 9).
And lastly.... Idc how much HP u have, $$ cant by driving skills. Sure have ppl gone 10s on 30rs and greens and stock turbos yes....BUT DRIVING COMES INTO PLAY and how the car is set up. Ive seen ppl with 500whp go 12s because they dont know what they are doing.
Last edited by WhtEvo05; Oct 20, 2007 at 10:05 PM.
im on the 3076 and from spool all the way till i shift the turbo has tremendous power. you will lose some topend but get 280s to make for it. i love my turbo but i wanna make more power so that why im going to a 37r
I am happy with my 3071R!! I don't even have all the bolt-on crap that you can get (still stock exhaust manifold, stock intake manifold, stock uicp, and more) and I put down 401whp, 21.5-22psi, 93 octane, reflashed ecu, and the car feels great at all rpms. With this set-up on a race tune you would be at your 450whp level that you were looking for. Full Race just said in a post not to long ago that they are having alot of the racers wanting the 3071R. I think it is a great all aroung turbo very streetable and on meth or race it can put down some good power! The Green is a good turbo also!
I am happy with my 3071R!! I don't even have all the bolt-on crap that you can get (still stock exhaust manifold, stock intake manifold, stock uicp, and more) and I put down 401whp, 21.5-22psi, 93 octane, reflashed ecu, and the car feels great at all rpms. With this set-up on a race tune you would be at your 450whp level that you were looking for. Full Race just said in a post not to long ago that they are having alot of the racers wanting the 3071R. I think it is a great all aroung turbo very streetable and on meth or race it can put down some good power! The Green is a good turbo also!
Id like something like that... ANd I have the Bolt ons that you dont. Would you see 500whp on race gas?
Where did you get your kit from and what clutch are you riding on?


