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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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3rd Gear Lockout

Ok so I finally went to the track today! Not posting times, they were absolute ****! Had all kinds of problems, bogging off the line due to my clutch being way to far up and not engaging early enough! But my Main problem was on 3 of my 4 runs, I got locked out of 3rd! This is really annoying because Ive adjusted my new clutch so many times I dont know what to do any more! The problem is that I installed all these parts at the same time so I dont have a way to compare it to how it was before!

My set-up is:

Buschwacker Stage 1 Transmission
Exedy HD Twin Plate Clutch
Redline Lightweight Shockproof Transmission Fluid
Speed Source Shifter Bushing - http://www.lancershop.com/customer/p...4&cat=6&page=1


So please let me know if others have had this problem, If its due strictly to the clutch adjustment, the fluids, or something else. I have heard of lockout issues with shifter buschings, also! The other thing im worried about is when I adjust it down, it shifts fine but when I downshift into first in makes this winding sound, and when I push the clutch in, the sound stays but becomes in pulses. I know these clutches chatter, but I didnt think chatter sounded like a whine. If I cant get this fixed, Im probably going to Buschur on Monday and see if they can get it adjusted correctly!

Thank You for your help!

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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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anyone?
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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How old is the Buschwacker Stage 1 Transmission and Exedy HD Twin Plate Clutch??
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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all of these parts have about 1800 miles on them: tranny, clutch, bushings, and fluid.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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I am having a similar problem but only at higher rpm's in 3rd and 4th gear,,But there's no problem when normal driving,........What about you how's normal driving,,shifting.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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you should never ever be downshifting into first gear

if you are moving at all first gear is a no no
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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Its fine driving normal most of the time, only once in a while it wont want to go into 3rd when down shifting, but other then that its fine. It only locks me out when racing and shifting fast about 6500 rpms. As far as downshifting into 1st I dont release the clutch, just push it in and then put it in 1st till I stop. Its never engaged back in 1st while decelerating!
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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It sounds like the problem I'm having,,And I think it's my synchros...
Originally Posted by Celica2EVO
Its fine driving normal most of the time, only once in a while it wont want to go into 3rd when down shifting, but other then that its fine. It only locks me out when racing and shifting fast about 6500 rpms. As far as downshifting into 1st I dont release the clutch, just push it in and then put it in 1st till I stop. Its never engaged back in 1st while decelerating!
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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It better not be my synchros! I just payed Buschur $900 to get my transmission rebuilt! All new synchros and sliders! Ive been reading somemore and have found some people have problems with aftermarket shifter buschings!
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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Some aftermarket shifter bushings tend to throw the alignment of the shift assembly. Also kinda sounds like your clutch cylinder needs adjustment, but I'm not sure if you can adjust them on evo's.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by chaotichoax
you should never ever be downshifting into first gear

if you are moving at all first gear is a no no

that's a load of crap. i can't count how many times i've been autocrossing and needed 1st gear to get a better launch off a corner, or to get more power to help the car rotate. that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard. 1st gear is a gear just like all the others.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Celica2EVO
bogging off the line due to my clutch being way to far up and not engaging early enough! But my Main problem was on 3 of my 4 runs, I got locked out of 3rd! This is really annoying because Ive adjusted my new clutch so many times I dont know what to do any more!
Typically if the clutch engages/disengages high on the pedal you'll have clean shifts but risk slipping and if the engagement is really low you'll have lockout and a better chance of bogging it off the line because there's no way to slip it. Finding the happy medium takes some trial and error.


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that's a load of crap. i can't count how many times i've been autocrossing and needed 1st gear to get a better launch off a corner, or to get more power to help the car rotate. that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard. 1st gear is a gear just like all the others.

I think the common wisdom says that if you're coming to a stop at a red light, don't shift down to 1st, just push the clutch in and use the brakes. Obviously the requirements are different for autox and you'll need 1st gear on the tight technical courses.
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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yep i guess
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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you have the restrictor pill in there?
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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yep i guess
you bring back an old thread for no reason other than to say "yep i guess"
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