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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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I have to assume that the reason the second pump doesn't kick on until 16psi is so it doesn't overrun the stock FPR at idle/cruise when the engine isn't consuming much fuel.
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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I have the twin pump setup from fullblown too, works very well. -10an inlet and -8an return. I maxed out the 1 pump at ~520whp.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 01:28 AM
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Oh yeah!!! I should mention that I popped my motor at 521 WHP because of a single 255hp so you probably shouldn't wait till you hit the numbers to start thinking about it.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by joeracer321
Oh yeah!!! I should mention that I popped my motor at 521 WHP because of a single 255hp so you probably shouldn't wait till you hit the numbers to start thinking about it.
ouch, I'll take your advice, did you run out of fuel and lean out during some hard runs?
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Mellon
I have to assume that the reason the second pump doesn't kick on until 16psi is so it doesn't overrun the stock FPR at idle/cruise when the engine isn't consuming much fuel.
I would agree, the stock FPR probably can't handle that much fuel bypass at idle, hence the part time duty of the secondary pump. I've run twin pump setups before, but never had one cycle on and off based on load. Is there no concern about backflow through the pump that is off line during low load conditions?
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 06:57 AM
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I don't think that would be a problem...my concern would be a strange looking fuel map for when that second pump kicks on
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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I don't think that would be a problem...my concern would be a strange looking fuel map for when that second pump kicks on
yup, and if you're running alky that is load triggered also, it's going to make for an interesting tune
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 07:11 AM
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I have to wonder if it would make more sense to ditch the pressure switch and run the twins full time with an upgraded fuel pressure regulator.

I'm trying to think about the downside to doing it like this:
a) heating up the fuel?
b) additional expense of an aftermarket FPR

or is the second pump coming on at x psi a non issue with regards to tuning?

another concern, if the second pump dies you'll lean out, if the pressure switch dies, you'll lean out.

I'm wondering if I should do the same setup I did with my stealth FPR + Kenne Bell boost -a- pump.

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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by joeracer321
I am using the Fullblown twin pump assembly, it is a very nice piece and works well. I run twin pumps 100% of the time with -8 Feed & -6 Return, I have an Aeromotive regulator and the car runs with about 45 PSI at idle. I really like this set up as it simplified my original plans to run an external A1000 from a surge tank that the in tank was going to feed. It presented to many places to leak, and I wasn't too happy about running pressurized fuel lines inside of the car! So if you need 2 pumps (500+ WHP) then check out the Fullblown unit...

As a side note.... Fullblown please chime in,.... I want to modify the return of the unit to larger than 1/4 preferably 3/8" or larger, but I would need a new suction manifold to make it work. Has anyone modded this portion of the unit and had success transfering fuel from the other side of the tank?
Thanks guys, well the problem is the stock siphon piece is very restrictive. You wont be able to get base pressure down past 60ish thats why you have to trigger the second pump to come on later. Im sure you could drill the siphon piece out and still have it work but we have not tested it yet. LJ
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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LJ,
Do you think it would work if the siphon return was drilled 3/8" and then the manifold was made of a brass T and a few barb fittings, is there anything special inside of the plastic siphon?. I never looked at it before I dropped it in the tank.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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Thanks guys, well the problem is the stock siphon piece is very restrictive. You wont be able to get base pressure down past 60ish thats why you have to trigger the second pump to come on later. Im sure you could drill the siphon piece out and still have it work but we have not tested it yet. LJ
what do you mean by "stock siphon piece"? Is that the stock fuel pressure regulator?

edit: just read your install instructions, nice job by the way! So even if you have an aftermarket fuel pressure regulator, the stock siphon piece can still act as a bigger restriction to fuel return back to the tank? So that the fuel pressure regulator isn't really regulating pressure?

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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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Heres a pic of the stock siphon piece. If you look inside from the bottom of it, you would see tha that its a tiny little hole. I dont know if drilling it out would affect it but its something we'll definately try very soon here. LJ

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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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What does that siphon piece do?
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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the evo tank is a saddle design. There are 2 fuel compartments ( one on the drivers and one on the passenger). The siphon uses the return fuel to create a suction to pull fuel from the passenger side over the the drives.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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i have the ams twin pump setup.its been on the car for about 2years and works great.
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