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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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The 67 is a nice turbo... but unless ur running high boost all the time, id stick with a straight 35R...

AMS, ETS, etc all make nice 35R kits...

we have a 2.3 stroker with worked head and all of the supporting mods on our shop car.... it was a standard 35R, which made an easy 450whp on our mustang dyno (similar to buschurs) with the stock ecu on pump 93... we then changed to a gt67 comp wheel (effectively making it a 67, with a 73lbs/min wheel)... and made 499.7whp/420wtq on pump 93 @29psi ..

that equates to about 550-610whp on "power bragging dyno"....

In my honest opinion... a 2.3 with a 35R is a great setup, but dont skimp on headwork.... you need to get the added air in and out of the motor also...

Depends on your purpose of the car... if its for drag.. go with a high revving 2.0... street/roadcourse... 2.3 with a medium frame turbo is fun.

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ps, im going smaller on my shop car for time attack now... not even 35R sized.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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if you want,

start 35R, and let me know, i can get the upgraded comp wheel put on your 35R with a custom antisurge housing..

cb
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Shot of Boost
The T67

The GT35R

The ETS

please help me im cought in the middle and dont know which 1 to buy, basically what im looking for is to make between 500-650 whp without loosing powersteering or a/c. And with the quickest spool up, with the least possible lag.

Okay here we go my setup......

NOW:

Intake
3" HKS Exhaust
02 Housing
Boost Controller
SAFC2
Walbro Fuel pump
HKS 272 Cams
HKS Cam Gears
BOV w/ piping

Future PREP b4 upgrade turbo:

Clutch
FMIC
Meth/Injec
AEM CPU
AMS Fuel System
Catch Can
Intake Manifold
Injectors

and possibly a Stroker Kit 2.3L


so as of now im not stock but by the time it comes to buy the bigger turbo i wont be anywhere near stock
You seem like you know a little....... going by your posts I will assume you will not be doing the install/tune by yourself. With that assumption out of all the current kits I would drop my car off at a premier shop and use a 4088TS from Full-Race or
35R-HTA from FP/Buschur. Have a 25psi pump map and a 36-38psi race map all done.

Do it all at once too go PM some people who did it in stages and ask them how they would do the build if they could do it again.

Good luck.

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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Shot of Boost
i lik the GT35 kit dont be me wrong but the BB turbos are so sensitive and delicate, that it makes me peranoid. And i know that the T67 or the ETS turbo kits seem to make about the same power, but are not as popular. Ive seen plently of BB big turbo Evos down here from GT28s to 42s. But i have only seen 1 EVO with a T67 which ran pretty sick, and i dunno about the ETS.

So does anybody in here have T67? or the ETS set up when do they usually spool at and REVIEWS!!

the BB turbos are sensitive and delicate!????? The main purpose of BB turbos is the robustness they offer over journal bearing turbos. The can take the pounding (not to mention surge) much better.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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what do these turbos max out at in HP?

I've seen GT35s run into the 600s mayb lights 700s.

The T67s from what ive seen on Supras can go as high as low 800s.

and im not sure about the ETS turbo kits, but if i were to go with an ETS turbo kit it would be PT 66 or 67
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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i've never had a gt bb fail..

and the lmp race cars i drove used them, and we ran 12-24 hour races at sebring, road atlanta etc!! we had maybe 1 failure in 2 years

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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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okay so then the question really comes down to between the GT35 and the T67 which 1 has the most turbo lag, which 1 spools faster and which has more potential for high hP?
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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35R= quicker spool less lag
35R= slightly less power

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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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The T67 has more power and lag. I would seriously consider what Chad suggested, start with the 35 and upgrade to the 67 if it isn't enough for you.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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that "T67" he is referring to is the Greddy kit, not the same as the 67 trim that other people are making great power with.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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You should stick with the stock turbo or pay someone to do the whole setup for you. Sorry, you are lacking some very basic knowledge here man.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ifarted2
I had over 250 drag races and 100plus dyno runs with no problems with the ETS 67 kit
what the hell kind of wheel/tire combo were you using to net 1.4 60ft!?!?!
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 11secEVO7
what the hell kind of wheel/tire combo were you using to net 1.4 60ft!?!?!
I was using 35x12.50 Toyo MTs
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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what do you think of a built 2.0 and im going to be using a stage 4 race head from JAM with a 37r or keep my 35r? I only use the car as a weekend street killer and make good power now... but i can feel the car wanting to pull past 7500 and i have to keeo shifting which kills me on the street and the strip
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by diambo4life
You should stick with the stock turbo or pay someone to do the whole setup for you. Sorry, you are lacking some very basic knowledge here man.
+1

Not to put you down but stick with the stock turbo. Max it out then move on. Your Ideas are good but that's some serious cash so I doubt your dropping all that into your car now. Progressively mod your car and ask for assistance if your too lazy to use the search function which would have brought you to many threads which would have helped you btw.

On a side note; Simple mods to get you over 500whp on a dynojet.. Meth/alky injection, a 35r, and a flash should net you somewhere over 500 hopefully on the stock block which I wouldn't run like that for too long. Build your block before hand or soon after and maybe a standalone ems like aem or powerFC to get rid of the stock maf sensor.

Search FP green or 20g-lt, not 500whp about 450 range w/ meth @28psi+ and are great on the street if you're so worried about "lag".
The 30r series turbos make similar power too.

look into an ETS 50/57/58/60 trim for 500ish whp with meth @30psi +
those kits would match up/come close to similar results of buschur's 50trim and 3065

Most brand venders make or support someone's 35r most making similar power.

obviously they all have their stronger points and flaws.. quicker spooling, cast manifold, bolts up to stock loacation dp, ect.

search some **** and move on. when you start ask for support but I don't see this happening over night

Either way goodluck Hope this helped somewhat.
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