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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Onyxeros
you are correct

Ill stop but anyone that thinks adding more air is the only way to make power should never touch a car...NOS anyone
I'm pretty sure nitrous makes power by adding oxygen (air) to the combustion charge. Anyway, the post above was just saying (I think) that when tuning as long as you have not gone past the limits of your fuels octane then more boost will always add more power than adjusting timing or fuel will, and that is generally a true statement I think.
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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wait a sec you are telling me oxygen is air!!?????
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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Oxygen is the stuff in the air that your car uses for combustion. Sorry for the misstatement.
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bad driver
hello!

I read the 2 diagrams in these forums and I think they installed it using the usual route which is turbo and wastegate. I think it's hard to get this wrong since any brand of mbc is installed this way, right? we haven't tried the bov to wastegate route yet but it may still not work and I'd be spending another 1-2 hours of wasted dyno time

25 psi... wow. i'm at 1.2 bar.... peak and just split second... I think it's just 16.8 psi. I wonder what he can do with 21 psi and above. I'm envious. hehe.

@sabastian, thanks for the info.... It must be excruciating for the engineer hearing my noob whining about needing more boost when he knows what he's doing.. but hey, that's part of his job.
nice sig/quotes btw.
The one that I used is the tee in the BOV line and the other hose to the wastegate. I can PM you the link to the grpah if you don't know which one is it.

I'm running 25psi and the logs look very clean, but the gasoline over here is 95 octane ( (RON + MON)/2) ), which should be a little more than the 93 in the US, I think.
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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thanks, man! I think I already saw the bov diagram. it may have the same results tho

thanks to everyone's comments thus far and peace! hehe.
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Onyxeros
that is one of the funniest things ive read on here.

You don't really believe this do you? I have to have missed the sarcasm.
I'm glad you're amused. You didn't miss the sarcasm - there was none. But you obviously missed my point. So let me repeat, more air = more power. And let me ask you further - what do you think nitros is short for? I really hope you know...
Also NOS is a brand name, fyi.
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by mplspilot
I'm glad you're amused. You didn't miss the sarcasm - there was none. But you obviously missed my point. So let me repeat, more air = more power. And let me ask you further - what do you think nitros is short for? I really hope you know...
Also NOS is a brand name, fyi.

I believe nitros are what you buy in the video game "offroad" when you want a power boost. Nitrous is an oxygenated combustable fluid that you spray either wet or dry into your intake system. Off the top of my head I believe it's something like 35% oxygen where as "air" is 20% oxygen.

Just think about this, and if you want to have a discussion about it we certainly can via pm

Two cars, two different stock motors, same turbo. One makes 290hp at 18psi the other makes 290hp at 10psi. Why is that?
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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"Oxygenated combustible fluid" ?? Are you serious?! Instead of arguing with me you should learn some chemistry which you obviously didn't in your high school. Well at least you googled that it has 33% oxygen in it (I'm sorry - took it "off top your head" :LOL: ) So that should have explaned everything to you, yet you continue trying to make some meaningless point...

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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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I made 340 at the wheels on 22 psi. What now?
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by nightwalker
I made 340 at the wheels on 22 psi. What now?

What does it trap?
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Onyxeros
Nitrous is an oxygenated combustable fluid that you spray either wet or dry into your intake system.
Since you seem so apt to correct others, allow me to do the same.

Nitrous oxide is not an oxygenated "combustable" (sic) fluid as you would claim. It is an accelerant. It is completely non-combustible.

Owned.

I feel dirty for filling this thread with all this banter.
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