i heard to watch out in 4th gear because its very easy to blow your motor?

is this true?

 

On MRs it is because they have a THINNER 4th and 5th gear

The transmission gear casing is the same size on the 5 and 6 speed.....and to fit in another gear (6speed) into the same size casing you need to make some gears thinner.

And mitsu made the 4th and 5th gear thinner to fit the 6 gears into the casing which houses a 5spd originally.

You shouldnt have a problem with 4th or 5th UNLESS you have over 400 hp or you drag/road race a lot.

if you do spirited street driving or use it as a daily driver with under 400 hp you should be fine ....SHOULD,.....unless your in 4th a ton heating up the gear then your ASKING for you transmission to GERNADE!

LOTS of people who drag and Auto X have problems with 4th getting too hot in the straights and sometimes transmission failure occurs depending on how hard its being pushed and how much heat is being developed. A thinner gear heats up faster and is more prone to breaking,......I researched the configuration and mechanical makeup of the GSR and MR tranny bcuz im thinking of trading in my Evo8 for a evo9 and was not sure if i should look at MRs. I still am possibly looking....but if i got a MR i personally would not agressively roadrace, or put in a aftermarket turbo to reduce possiblity of tranny failure.

You do NOT want a GERNADING TRANSMISSION!

 

I ju8st re-read your posting.....

i think you mis-heard or mis-interpretd it....

Whoever you heard it from probably meant 4TH GEAR IS MORE PRONE (EASY) TO BLOW YOUR TRANNY (not 'motor' like you posted)

 

damn! thanks you man on all that info.....now is this why everyone goes with STI's?

why arent you looking for a subie if you know this about the MR i think that whole gear **** really sucks....

 

Don't take one guy's word as gospel...not to discredit him, but there have been plenty of threads on this issue and I've seen several that state the difference in strength between the MR tranny and the regular IX is negligible even for a mixed street/track car. Tons of MRs running track days here, and 400hp (crank hp, that is), is only a TBE, boost controller and tune away. For all the claims of the MR's tranny being weak I have yet to hear reports of them grenading...or "gernading" for that matter

But I could be wrong. Like I said, don't take one guy's word as gospel Do the research.

 

Im just relaying well known information

 

And like I side, I specifically remember reading in another thread that the incidence of MR tranny failures is greatly exaggerated, and that the 6-speed is not significantly weaker.

I'm just making sure the OP is well-informed, is all. Nothing against you, and like I said I could be wrong

 

Yes the 6sp is not that weak at all. 99.9% of people MR trannies have failed have either been A. lots of road racing abuse B. using wrong or too thin of fluid C. have very high horsepower D. overheating the transmission. Normally most people aren't going to have a problem unless you are a harcore track junkie (high horsepower and 20-30 track visits a year) then the 5sp is usually a little better. Remember for every MR tranny has failed there are about 20 subbie trannies that took a dump.

 

Some MRs seem to not have the problem- i think the very early and premature failures come down to how hard you push the tranny and especially the drivers style of driving.

but its COMMON sense and LOGICAL...thinner gears means WEAKER....if your bone is thinner its more prone to braking. If a piece of wood is a twig you can break it easily- if its a redwood large tree you can break it at all!



Its NOT why people go with the STIs though. I really think it has NOTHING to do with that. IF ANYTHING it has something to do with why people choose the GSR over the MR.
THINK ABOUT IT....the MAGAZINES were comparing the evo 8 to the STI all the time....they should REALLY be comparing the evo MR to the STI - thatd be 'fair' considering then both would have 6speeds and 300 hp....FUNNY thing is in the evo8 GSR (5sp 271hp) vs STI the EVO STILL WINS! that practically means the lower power rated and one less gear evo will beat the STI....and not only should it be MR vs STI ...but then it should be GSR (reg evo) vs WRX (reg wrx non STI)! i know the evo would own, and some would argue the base wrx has less hp than the evo (non MR)

The STI is torquey but lacks cost effective and tuner friendly aftermarket potential. Yes its there but its COSTLY. and to push more power out of the STIs engine takes a lot of parts, tuning, and most of all like i said cash.
I have two friends with STIs. They put in a LOT more $ into parts and especially labor and tuning for some reason than i have put into my evo with more power.

Ive talked with them and they say the STIs aftermarket is more limited (yet still isnt 'limited' in literal terms) than the evo. Im not saying the STI aftermarket is limited in general, im saying its limited COMPARED to the evos aftermarket DUE SOLELY to the fact that the 4g63 has been out for so many years and that a lot of mods that would fit our car have been out since about 2001 and newer (evo 7)

 

Yo....everywhere i look...

Its people with MRs saying its not weak

and people that dont have MRs saying its not weak.


I have driven both, and im going off the metic system and logical volume calculations.....you cant fit 6 large gears in a 5 gear housing.

it may not be 'weak' technically, and frankly it isnt 'weak' in general......

but its definately WEAKER than the 5 speed...thinner..weaker! hahaha.


sorry im on pain pills i just had reconstructive surgery on my ankle.

im damn surprised i can type this well on em

 

Dont worry about your car having trouble with 4th gear man- unless you beat the crap outta it or are constantly in the high RPMs.

And if you do road race and am worried than simply dont use 4th as much..

there SHOULDNT even be much of a need for 4th unless the track has a VERY long straight....or your not topping out gears...but NOW that i think about it the MR has differnt gearing obviously and maybe the MRs do use 4th much more than i believe

 

And no one misinterpret any of my posts as me ******* the MR, its a beast and i may own one soon!

I cant decide A: IF I EVEN WANT TO TRADE IN MY CAR

B: IF I DO (which i probably will end up doing) If i should go with a Evo9 SE....or the EVO9 MR SE (or MR with appearance package since mitsu didnt like 'MR SE'...

i guess it is a long name.... Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 9 Mitsubishi Racing Special Edition AKA EVO 9 MR SE

 

damn thank you guys for all this info! it pumps me up to be so lucky to own the MR!
for a little i was worried! but we all know people who have sti's want an evo! haha....

and hey man i would go get that evo ASAP!

 

go with the
MR
MR
MR
MR
MR

 

i dont know.. im in the same situation.. Being that ill be going to the track alot for the 1/4 and maybe some autox... I think im gona go with the 9 SE.. Mrs look hot... but I think im just gona buy some used MR BBS wheels and throw em on .. along with a vortex gen.. and WA LA.. beautiful track goddess with a few bolt ons... reliable in a sense. Ya know? Avoid possible problems