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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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we are putting the Mynes manifold (long-runner version) on a FP Green as we speak; should have the dyno numbers tomorrow with "before and after" numbers

Here are some dyno results on some of our customer cars

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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I have the borla manifold and see 10awhp more throughout the powerband than a megan and ported stocker and also more torque. Nobody really uses them for some reason but it is teh reason I am faster than every car I go up against.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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I have the borla manifold and see 10awhp more throughout the powerband than a megan and ported stocker and also more torque. Nobody really uses them for some reason but it is teh reason I am faster than every car I go up against.
we ordered a Borla mani for a customer once, but when it arrived, the customer made us return that unit back to the distributor. Apparently he wasn't too happy with the finish. He was willing to pay the restocking fee than to keep it
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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I just looked at a image of a borla manifold, and it appears to be for the VIII because it has the "split" for the Twin Scroll feature of the VIII turbo.

My question is...Will you see any negative affects with having the manifold designed for a twin scroll but yet using it with a IX/fpgreen turbo?
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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I did a bunch of exhaust manifold testing awhile back and have since then done some others that were not published because of confidentiality reasons.

So I can say for sure that the best is the Full Race Pro Street header for the stock turbo.

After that the best is a good ported/coated stock exhaust manifold, it is also your cheapest and most reliable option and the one I would personally recommend and choose myself.

No offense to the Mynes guys but the picture you showed of your flange being port matched to the head doesn't mean much when you stuff that thick walled tubing into the port and then block it off considerably...............over a .163" all the way around the inside looses a lot of port area.

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CBRicahrd
I just looked at a image of a borla manifold, and it appears to be for the VIII because it has the "split" for the Twin Scroll feature of the VIII turbo.

My question is...Will you see any negative affects with having the manifold designed for a twin scroll but yet using it with a IX/fpgreen turbo?
You need to do a little more research. They are the same design. The finish of the manifold is alright. I am not going to defend that but I know for a fact that it has performed better than any of the other manifold I have installed or tested.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
I did a bunch of exhaust manifold testing awhile back and have since then done some others that were not published because of confidentiality reasons.

So I can say for sure that the best is the Full Race Pro Street header for the stock turbo.

After that the best is a good ported/coated stock exhaust manifold, it is also your cheapest and most reliable option and the one I would personally recommend and choose myself.

No offense to the Mynes guys but the picture you showed of your flange being port matched to the head doesn't mean much when you stuff that thick walled tubing into the port and then block it off considerably...............over a .163" all the way around the inside looses a lot of port area.
Do you have record of the comparison still on you? I know for a fact that the borla out performs your ported and coated stocker. Also I still do not see what is so different about the fullrace. It is the same design as megan but thicker walls. The runners are not equal length as the borla which is why it makes more power.

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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by RevMoto
Do you have record of the comparison still on you? I know for a fact that the borla out performs your ported and coated stocker. Also I still do not see what is so different about the pro race. It is the same design as megan but thicker walls. The runners are not equal length as the borla which is why it makes more power.
says the guy with the borla exhaust manifold.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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I can't argue with that kind of logic. If YOU say that the one you have is the best then by golly YOU have to right! I wish I had a better butt dyno as it sure is cheaper than the $130,000 I spent to put a good dyno in here and time I waste datalogging............I am such a loser.

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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
I can't argue with that kind of logic. If YOU say that the one you have is the best then by golly YOU have to right! I wish I had a better butt dyno as it sure is cheaper than the $130,000 I spent to put a good dyno in here and time I waste datalogging............I am such a looser.

bwahahahahaha!

coated and ported stocker is the way to go. that thing can take a driect hit from a MOAB and not leak any exhaust gases. tubular headers dont have quite as much resistance to abuse. mynes also has real nice stuff and good taste, but i am a buschur guy till the grave.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
I can't argue with that kind of logic. If YOU say that the one you have is the best then by golly YOU have to right! I wish I had a better butt dyno as it sure is cheaper than the $130,000 I spent to put a good dyno in here and time I waste datalogging............I am such a looser.
Not a butt dyno but the dll that is almost identical to USP's dyno. I have had a bunch of manifolds on my car to test them out. By looking at some of your recent comparisons you only use a handful of products to test against yours. Not all of them. This is why I have doubt of you testing the borla manifold. You are going to be biased to your own product and that is a given. The dll if very close and in comparison I have seen a steady 10awhp above 4500 to reline over the ported and coated manifold. Yes the ported and coated will be cheaper but wont gain as much. As far as the whole cracking issue I rarely see it. Only time I really have is when you have a weak tubular on a large turbo or the crappy ebay knock off of the megan. The Borla manifold is around $700 new. Is it worth it in my opinion? No. Neither are most as of full race. All I see besides the same design as all other manifold is that is has thicker walls so it wont crack and the fullrace name. Not worth 1200. But yet David you recommend that one. You are not the only one of this forum who can come up with results.

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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Danner
says the guy with the borla exhaust manifold.
which proves I have one to test. I am not biased. I am not running around saying borla 4 lyfe. If I did then I would own their turboback too. That is not the case. Guy asked for the best performing manifold. Did not say anything about price and practicality is opinionated.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
I am such a looser.
How loose are you? just playing.

I have only read information, but i definitely agree with buschur on this one, port and coat the stock mani for decent results. Otherwise invest in the full race one. Most of the time you dont need a new mani until you upgrade the turbo. I still there is something to be said with replacing the unequal length stock 4" primaries with 15" of equal length header. Plus the cast mani holds heat a lot better. Just my opinion though.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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Damn David just came ou tof left field and told him. I dont think i have ever seen him talk smack like that in years! Go dave!
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