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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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To the OP, that's would be an insanse strret set up. Very broad power band. The limit of your power is your turbo. So, the best to date on a HTA35 is 700whp on a dynojet (BR RS), so you may get there too, but you will have a broader power band than the BR RS car.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ALLBLACK-EVO
Why don't you guys start a UK Evos Vs US Evos thread somewhere else cause you guys are certainly off topic here.

I'm runnin a JAM 2.3 w/ 37R I see 580WHP (Mustang Dyno) @ 30PSI on 110 Octane. If you have done some head work I wouldn't be surprised if you have around 550.
That's 110 octane. IMO it doesn't make sense to have anything bigger than a 3076 on 91 octane like the OP stated he wanted.

You can't take advantage of a big turbo's efficiency range on pump and you get all the lag.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by scorke
Jmartinez doesn't drive/do/have anything to show for anything, he just posts a lot in big turbo builds talking like he knows what he is talking about.

We all know he doesn't know what hes talking about if he is building a 2.3 42r evo.........

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You have no f***ing clue.

Ever since the 8 hit the US it was a whole new ball game. Pretty boy Norris hasnt engineered s*** all that parts he sells are parts that where already out on the market. Ok maybe he made a oil cooler big deal buy any oil cooler get some fittings its not that hard. His turbo kits are made by Shearer Fab. oh yea there from the US if you didnt know. Dont even tell me he made his own cams yea right there some company and he boxes them just like BR 272.

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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by scorke
Jmartinez doesn't drive/do/have anything to show for anything, he just posts a lot in big turbo builds talking like he knows what he is talking about.

We all know he doesn't know what hes talking about if he is building a 2.3 42r evo.........

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Dont you have a 35R what makes you think you know anything. Your stuck at 450whp. Get your car retuned you should be making way more power on pump gas.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jmartinez1170
Dont even tell me he made his own cams yea right there some company and he boxes them just like BR 272.
I'm sure they're his specs, which is the whole point. I'm sure tons, if not most, performance parts companies outsource this type of stuff..

You just don't have to be such a negative Nancy all the time, and everyone would lay off you.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by KOEvo

You just don't have to be such a negative Nancy all the time, and everyone would lay off you.

You know what your right. Im not going to say anything for sometime. I wont talk on topics i get bashed all the time thats fine. Next summer will see who will be
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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That's 110 octane. IMO it doesn't make sense to have anything bigger than a 3076 on 91 octane like the OP stated he wanted.

You can't take advantage of a big turbo's efficiency range on pump and you get all the lag.
I must be reading the wrong thread because I thought the OP stated he wanted to know what WHP to expect running an AMS 2.3L with a twin scroll 35R using 93Octane and Meth Injection. If he is using 93 Octane with Meth Injection, he will have no problems running and spooling the 35R on good boost. I don't recall the OP asking about 91 octane and a 3076. If he were looking to run 91 octane I would agree with you but the 93 octane with meth should work for taking advantage of a big turbo's efficiency range. He just needs a good tuner to make it all work.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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actually the cams are to his specs, I have a pair. It'e looks like he uses mitsu blanks and has them ground to what he wants, and they are BF272's (big f'in cams). As for a horsepower est i would say 550, I got 515 with my 37r and stock engine on 91/meth so you should pull out a bit more.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by scorke
Jmartinez doesn't drive/do/have anything to show for anything, he just posts a lot in big turbo builds talking like he knows what he is talking about.

We all know he doesn't know what hes talking about if he is building a 2.3 42r evo.........

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Dont you have a 35R what makes you think you know anything. Your stuck at 450whp. Get your car retuned you should be making way more power on pump gas.
I don't post in threads where my knowledge or input isnt relevant unless I am asking a question.

Go pick up your phone and tell Sean Ivey he doesn't know what hes doing.....

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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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After reading info from both Full Race and Forced Performance websites about both systems I have a question.

The Full Race site says the TS turbo is an F1 (Turbonetics) 35. The FP website says it can do the HTA conversion with a Garrett 35 turbo. Can FP do the HTA conversion of the Turbonetics unit with the same degree of success as shown with the Garrett? Would this conversion (if possible) yield even better spool characteristics than wither the F1 or Garrett alone?

This frankenstein turbo could be a great compromise if it is possible to create and it can take the best traits of both the F1 and the HTA. Big ifs...

Please no "I heard" or "I think" answers to my questions. Hard facts would be appreciated as would their sources.

Cheers & happy holidays.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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In a previous post somewhere, Geoff mentioned that the HTA conversion can only be done with the Garrett T3 twin scroll housing, and not the Turbonetics T4 TS...which should flow a lot more. I would think that on a stroker, the T4 35 F1 TS would be a better option because of the bigger turbine housing, unless some feel a higher revving 2.0 would be better. Not sure at what RPM's the Turbonetics would start to drop off power wise.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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post results please im anxioues to see
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 11:37 PM
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450 whp on just 93 with a 35r is quite good
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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450 whp on just 93 with a 35r is quite good
Thank you 4ce fed I am quite pleased, more than enough for me !

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