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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 05:01 AM
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I, like many, are going to keep an eye out for these, but kind of sucks because from what I hear the full-race ts mani's are like made to order, so it's going to be like a 4-6 wait or something like that..
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 05:02 AM
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also people are telling me that the .78 ar turbine housing is way to small for the flow of the compressor. what negative out put will this cause?

you guys think i should buy the 1.06 ar twin scroll turbine housing for this hta gt35r turbo?

remember this is going on a stock more and i'm trying to make as much power as possible with it spooling fast. i'm not looking for a crappy 5000 rpm spool time like most other gt35r stock motor evos
get the 1.06 and a anti surge housing
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:44 PM
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updates?
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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ALL HTA 35R upgrades come with the surge ported cover. Try to make it surge.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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It says a/r 70..
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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is better to do it right the first time. The HTA 35r already spool faster than your typical 35r, now you have twin scroll set up with the HTA which should give you crazy spool......since you have stock head the obstruction might "help" the spool down low since is not flowing freely in comparison to a stage 3 BR head.

My adivce for you is to go with the 1.06.......later down the road you will regret using the smaller a/r. I mean you are using a 650whp/700 whp capable turbo but you will be lucky to see 500 whp.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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is better to do it right the first time. The HTA 35r already spool faster than your typical 35r, now you have twin scroll set up with the HTA which should give you crazy spool......since you have stock head the obstruction might "help" the spool down low since is not flowing freely in comparison to a stage 3 BR head.
My adivce for you is to go with the 1.06.......later down the road you will regret using the smaller a/r. I mean you are using a 650whp/700 whp capable turbo but you will be lucky to see 500 whp.
Do you have any facts to back up anything your saying in regards to a TS on an EVO? Any links to any backside testing on a TS 35R? I don't mean to be a dick but it seems like there's tons of talk on how great these turbos are but very few published results for Evos. Just really curious.

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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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How about the fact that all EVOs came equipped from the factory with TS? The benefits of TS are predictable among all 4 cyl engines, are the result of simple physics - and those laws apply evenly across the board.

As for this particular discussion however, the .78 A/R TS T3 will be small for a 35R.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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OK Ted, I agree with you and understand that you are far more knowledgeable in the benefits of TS than I am. And yes, All Evos come equipped with TS. I'm just curious if there's anyone in an Evo succesfully running a TS 35R who has posted their results. What is "crazy spool" and what tests have been done on the different backsides on an Evo? I agree that the .73 will be too small, but have not seen any data on it. If you can point me in a direction I'd love to go, I just see much talk....Little results. For now.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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We don't see much data posted because it's expensive, and not many are willing to ante up.

As for this particular situation, the 35R HTA and 1.06 TS T3 housing would almost certainly make for a formidable match. I agree that we can't quantify things like "crazy spool" (take with a grain of salt). I feel the safest thing to say here is 'best possible transient response and minimal lag' for this turbo and engine size. For that much, I have little doubt.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
We don't see much data posted because it's expensive, and not many are willing to ante up.
Agree here. Myself included.

Originally Posted by Ted B
As for this particular situation, the 35R HTA and 1.06 TS T3 housing would almost certainly make for a formidable match. I agree that we can't quantify things like "crazy spool" (take with a grain of salt). I feel the safest thing to say here is 'best possible transient response and minimal lag' for this turbo and engine size. For that much, I have little doubt.
I'm with you Ted, I'd just like to see at least a little data when it seems to be such a hot topic of discussion. Increasing lag with a bigger hotside when the benefits of TS are quicker spool seem to be tugging in opposite directions.
How much more lag (Bigger HS) VS. how much power loss (Smaller HS) is what I'm interested in seeing results for when it comes to this TS buisness.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
How about the fact that all EVOs came equipped from the factory with TS? The benefits of TS are predictable among all 4 cyl engines, are the result of simple physics - and those laws apply evenly across the board.

As for this particular discussion however, the .78 A/R TS T3 will be small for a 35R.
I definitely agree. I am getting the .78 for a TS HTA3076. I can't see the .78 being enough for a 35r.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Does anyone know if the HTA wheel will work in a T4 Twin Scroll GT35R?
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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Does anyone know if the HTA wheel will work in a T4 Twin Scroll GT35R?
Yes it will.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RevMoto
I definitely agree. I am getting the .78 for a TS HTA3076. I can't see the .78 being enough for a 35r.
the .78 will be too small for the 30R aswell.

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