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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:12 AM
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i totally agree, it's nice that you are trying to put together your own turbo kit and all, but i think you'll be much better buying an off the shelf turbo kit. if you are only trying to put one together to save money and buy cams and injectors, that's not a very good reason at all. in the end, don't go the cheap and easy route to try and save a couple of hundred dollars.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Boltz.
Although I can appriciate you taking the time to try to re-invent the wheel and be original there are many flaws in your plan.

1) No wastegate factored into price
2) You have a T3 hotside and a T4 flanged manifold
3) You have a dumptube for a full race manifold and are going to use a DNP manifold
4) You don't know about clearance issues with the turbo, manifold, and turbo outlet (o2)
5) You don't have a slimfan incorporated
6) You don't have oil + water lines with the necessary adapters
7) You don't mention if the hafe o2 housing meets upto the 5 bolt precision housing
8) You don't know if that particular manifold with that precision hotside (not all 5 bolt turbine housings are the same) and that o2 housing will leave the same location for the stock downpipe as you don't have the hafe manifold which it was designed for
9) Those cams are for race cars that have headwork


There is a reason people buy kits, you are walking into a big headache.
the turbo is a 4 bolt outlet, the price is the same for the T3 and T4 i might have copied the wrong one, i see what you are saying about the o2 but the mainfold and turbo should sit in the same location or close to it, and the o2 is a 4 bolt.

yeah it would be nice just to pay the money and get everything but, if i work out the bugs this will come out well on top, and if not it will be pretty close to the same for more stuff.

i was also thinking that about the cams just wanted some feedback on it, and was going to talk to the tuner of the car.

will also check with a local shop for oil and coolant lines.

i just found a gt35r for 1200 new, and waste gate for 215 new. i am trying to find used parts but having no luck with that, everyone is selling complete kinds for the same price i'm piecing together new stuff.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:42 AM
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35r $1200
manifold $349
wastegate $215
4 bolt o2 housing $200
280 BC cams $349
springs and retainers $219
injectors $269
head studs $91
dumptube $50
oil and coolant lines $100???

roughly $2852

Where can you find a 35r turbo kit with cams, making 550whp for $2900, i'm going to start selling this kit after i prove it i hope.

still having problem with the oil and coolant lines i will probably piece that together from local shop. not sure exaclty which ones to use.


A ETS kit with the same turbo, cams, injectors, headstuds is $4113 thats $1261 more, my way might make 5-10whp less, and i might need to lay down and take some advil, but i will have save about 1200 bucks give or take

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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 02:14 AM
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buschur has a nice sale going on right now and ets has a new value kit. I'd save a little more and go that route if I were you.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 06EVOIX SE
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35r $1200
manifold $349
wastegate $215
4 bolt o2 housing $200
280 BC cams $349
springs and retainers $219
injectors $269
head studs $91
dumptube $50
oil and coolant lines $100???

roughly $2852

Where can you find a 35r turbo kit with cams, making 550whp for $2900, i'm going to start selling this kit after i prove it i hope.

still having problem with the oil and coolant lines i will probably piece that together from local shop. not sure exaclty which ones to use.


A ETS kit with the same turbo, cams, injectors, headstuds is $4113 thats $1261 more, my way might make 5-10whp less, and i might need to lay down and take some advil, but i will have save about 1200 bucks give or take
that list looks better, good luck with it i hope it works for you
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 06EVOIX SE
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35r $1200
manifold $349
wastegate $215
4 bolt o2 housing $200
280 BC cams $349
springs and retainers $219
injectors $269
head studs $91
dumptube $50
oil and coolant lines $100???

roughly $2852

Not to shabby... I think you can make it work.

Lots of guys have been putting together well priced DIY 50 Trim kits:

- RevHArd T3 Cast Manifold = $300
- 50 Trim Ball Bearing Turbo = $900
- 38mm Tial Wastegate = $215

all the other bits are fabricated or made-up:

Downpipe is modified to fit T3-T4 Hotside
Oil & Water lines are made up

-Etc

Should be good for a quick spooling 500HP Kit



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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 04:22 AM
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I just pieced together my own 50 trim turbo kit as well. The main difference was that I was not afraid of the really cheap ebay stuff. I simply reinforced the welds and cut off and welded on a new tial WG flange that came with the 44mm valve. I have you all beat in terms of price.

Manifold and DP $175
No o2 housing DP bolts to turbo
Precision 50 trim JB $600
Oil Line and install kit from SS chrome $70
Tial 44 mm gate. $300
Homemade dump tube $10
Modified existing LICP $10
Misc stuff $70
Grand Total around $1,200.

Made 500 WHP with great spoolup. The cheapo manifold and DP did require some cleaning up and I re-inforced some of the welds. I also modified the DP to get it further away from the oil pan. This is not the way to go for everone, but for someone with some fabrication skills it is certainly the cheapest way to go. Bash all you like. It works. Period!
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by EvoTech
I just pieced together my own 50 trim turbo kit as well. The main difference was that I was not afraid of the really cheap ebay stuff. I simply reinforced the welds and cut off and welded on a new tial WG flange that came with the 44mm valve. I have you all beat in terms of price.

Manifold and DP $175
No o2 housing DP bolts to turbo
Precision 50 trim JB $600
Oil Line and install kit from SS chrome $70
Tial 44 mm gate. $300
Homemade dump tube $10
Modified existing LICP $10
Misc stuff $70
Grand Total around $1,200.

Made 500 WHP with great spoolup. The cheapo manifold and DP did require some cleaning up and I re-inforced some of the welds. I also modified the DP to get it further away from the oil pan. This is not the way to go for everone, but for someone with some fabrication skills it is certainly the cheapest way to go. Bash all you like. It works. Period!

right now i have the ebay TBE, 02, and manifold (cracked )
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 06EVOIX SE
i see what you are saying about the o2 but the mainfold and turbo should sit in the same location or close to it, and the o2 is a 4 bolt.
No manifold will put the turbo in the exact same location, thats a very poor assumption to make. It seems easy on paper but you are mixing and matching parts that weren't designed to work together.

Good luck
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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I can completely recognize your desire to save money wherever possible and have attempted the same personally in the past. As mentioned it will be difficult without good fabrication skills to complete this project. It can definitely be done, I just honestly feel that with our complete bolt-on and go ball-bearing Super Value kits under $3k and journal bearing kits like the turbo you mentioned under $2700 that you could spend the time you'd spend fighting with a custom build, enjoying your EVO

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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ETS Tom
I can completely recognize your desire to save money wherever possible and have attempted the same personally in the past. As mentioned it will be difficult without good fabrication skills to complete this project. It can definitely be done, I just honestly feel that with our complete bolt-on and go ball-bearing Super Value kits under $3k and journal bearing kits like the turbo you mentioned under $2700 that you could spend the time you'd spend fighting with a custom build, enjoying your EVO

Tom
what turbo do you recommend out of the kit to get me around the 500-550hp number, i was about two mouse clicks away from buying it, then thought about this. don't get me wrong i like the kit, i just don't come past this type of money that often and want make it go as far as i can.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 06EVOIX SE
what turbo do you recommend out of the kit to get me around the 500-550hp number, i was about two mouse clicks away from buying it, then thought about this. don't get me wrong i like the kit, i just don't come past this type of money that often and want make it go as far as i can.
https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...e614ae347a829e


why mess around trying to put some headache of a kit together when you can get that one ?
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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you still need:

oil feed
oil return
water lines extended
wastegate
dump tube
downpipe (i doubt this manifold puts the turbo in the SAME spot the Hafe manifold did so the Hafe o2 housing is gonna be a little off from whatever downpipe you have)
intake pipe (the turbo has a 4" inlet)
slimline fan
lower pipe (the garret style one is diff from whatever stock style one you have)

those parts alone are going to put you around 400-500


few other things too:

you bought a T4 manifold and you said the turbo is T3/T4???
you need to block the recirc port on the hafe o2 housing

the fabrication to make what I just said above is going to be at least 400 as well.


i dont want to sound like a **** but in your effort to save money this install is going to be a nightmare and your gonna see why people just buy kits. Your also going eventually spend more then you would have if you just bought the buschur cast kit, or ETS budget kit. IDK about you, but Time=money to me so if I have to spent 20 hours on something instead of 3-4, then that costed me much more $$$

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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 06EVOIX SE
what turbo do you recommend out of the kit to get me around the 500-550hp number, i was about two mouse clicks away from buying it, then thought about this. don't get me wrong i like the kit, i just don't come past this type of money that often and want make it go as far as i can.
The Precision T3 58mm would be a great option. It is rated to 565hp and will make close to 550whp at its limit. I'm running one of our 58mm kits on my EVO and the drivability is awesome, I can't say enough about it If you want to discuss turbo options in more details definitely get a hold of me!

Tom
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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dont want to sound like a **** but in your effort to save money this install is going to be a nightmare and your gonna see why people just buy kits. Your also going eventually spend more then you would have if you just bought the buschur cast kit, or ETS budget kit. IDK about you, but Time=money to me so if I have to spent 20 hours on something instead of 3-4, then that costed me much more $$$
And for some people learning to fabricate and the sense of accomplishment with building it youself is more important than time and money

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