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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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With the mods you listed, you should have no problems running in the 11's with a stock turbo, let alone a Green.

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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 01:48 AM
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looking at the boost now on the dyno graph and speaking to the tuner its seems more likely that the actuator isnt actualy holding boost. I have a apexi avcr that is controlling boost, not the motec, purely setup that way so i can change boost setting.

What actuator are people using with the fp green that are running 30psi or so?
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 10:10 AM
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On a Jun 2.2L, I'd run an HTA 3076 or the twin-scroll Full-Race 35R. Either way you're looking at a fairly big $$ investment, but you should hit in the mid-400s easily. On the intake manifold, I'd go to a ported stock intake and the 65mm TB offered by Binary.

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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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Get a larger FMIC and port the intake manifold along with a buschur throttle body. You should be able to keep the curve you got with much higher top end. Also get some internals and turn the boost up on pump. That should give you quiet a bit of power.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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change out your piping and a bigger fmic , mbc would help out a bit also. to bad you can't run meth. you would be in the 11's with no prob.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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Perhaps you should mod it a bit further. Maybe try a larger FMIC, larger throttle body, ported intake manifold, hotter cams, stainless O2 housing, LICP upgrade. If all else fails then experiment with Meth, as it will give you a guaranteed rush.
Good recommendations. You'd be surprised how much a LICP will help with power and spool. I'm installing one shortly.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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Thanks for the responses guys, however I already have a larger FMIC and Upper and lower inter-cooler piping.

Looking at the dyno and the boost pressure, I'm thinking that my actuator is not holding up?
Has anyone used a Forged actuator as oppose to the high pressure one supplied from FP?
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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I run the forge unit on my RS.. it works very well.. we keep them in stock also!!
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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get rid of the avcr
it wont hold boost that high

i have an avcr now and i have the same problem, going to change it for an hks evc 5

with those mods you should already easily be running 11s
a friend ran 11.8 with just a tune, exhaust and boost controller on an evo 9, 1.5bar boost
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ami
Thanks for the responses guys, however I already have a larger FMIC and Upper and lower inter-cooler piping.

Looking at the dyno and the boost pressure, I'm thinking that my actuator is not holding up?
Has anyone used a Forged actuator as oppose to the high pressure one supplied from FP?
What makes you believe that? A Green turbo is not that much bigger as a unit its still going to taper. Your 2.2L is going to require 10% more airflow as a metric of rpm then our stock 2.0L motors to begin with. I remember hearing the green flows around 49lbs/min.

So to run some calculations your 2.2L at 25psi is gonna want to see somewhere around 56lbs/min of air @ 7500rpm. With the green I'm expecting to see it taper right around the 6500rpm mark from 25psi. A 2.0L comparritively would want around 51lbs/min so it wouldn't taper until just before 7500rpm @ 25psi with my current VE calculations.

The 3076 regular turbo is around 55lbs/min so it "should" handle the 25psi mark and a HTA should flow a little more. But if you want to go higher your gonna have to step up with a bigger turbo the gt35r will flow 65lbs/min. Its your money and your car so do whatever you like
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by xcuzme
get rid of the avcr
it wont hold boost that high

i have an avcr now and i have the same problem, going to change it for an hks evc 5

with those mods you should already easily be running 11s
a friend ran 11.8 with just a tune, exhaust and boost controller on an evo 9, 1.5bar boost
lol. Yeah it does. I can hold 30psi all day long. You probably don't have it set up right. Lots of people don't know how to tune the AVCR.

Also for the OP. You have the Jun 2.2 and all those supporting mods, and 98Ron fuel and you can't run 11s? Either something is not right in your car(mechanically)
the ecu tune isn't that great(electronically), or you just can't drive.(physically)

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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 02:25 AM
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lol. Yeah it does. I can hold 30psi all day long. You probably don't have it set up right. Lots of people don't know how to tune the AVCR.

Also for the OP. You have the Jun 2.2 and all those supporting mods, and 98Ron fuel and you can't run 11s? Either something is not right in your car(mechanically)
the ecu tune isn't that great(electronically), or you just can't drive.(physically)
Hey, looking at the top end power response it is obvious that power gain is limited above 6.3k, so its not a driver who is limited, but the car which has the problem. It would be appreciated if you could enlighten us with a more positive response and describe your tuning AVCR technique, instead of criticizing and being ....
I still believe the actuator is not doing the job. Will the FORGE actuator perform better?
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 02:55 AM
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what he says about the avcr is true that ebc is hard to tune for those who dont know how. when properly tuned its amazing otherwise its garbage. i personally cant tune it i've never tried. but read up on here im sure there is a how to on how to tune that. i was running 11.9 on my VIII on stock turbo with 9.8 hotside with tbe, intake, upic, tune and some weight reduction.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 03:30 AM
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ive had a few people try to tune it, including someone who has a lot of experience in tuning them and is avcr trained

mine still wont hold boost to redline

maybe mine is faulty?
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 05:25 AM
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guys, I haven't taken the car down the qtr mile yet in its current power and setup. I had a tune previously with a bit less power, a dodgy clutch and the std wheels that wheel span when launching from 4500rpm. It ran a best of 12.6 then. So i think it will get close to 11's just not sure how easily.
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