Notices
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine management to the best clutch and flywheel.

compression test results

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 10:44 AM
  #16  
Markley02's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
From: Yardley, PA
To do a leak down test.... Depending on where you got the compression tester at, there should be a little adapter/extension thing. (it should have the same size threads as the tester you used before, but have no one-way valves) Take that to home depot/lowes and use plumbing to extend it and end with a quick release for an air compressor. Put the regulator on the compressor to 100 psi. Warm up the car. Take off the cam gear cover to see the timing marks. Disconnect that crank position sensor, and get the #1 cylinder to TDC. Take out all your spark plugs where you have low compression. Screw in your frankensien adapter and put 100 psi into the cylinder. Listen for leaks. If you hear a leak from the exhaust it is the exhaust valve, if you hear it from the intake (you will probably have to take the intercooler pipe closest to the TB off for this) it is the intake valves. If it is the rings you should hear it when you take off the oil cap. If you hear it coming out another spark plug hole it is your head gasket. Repeat with each cylinder that has low compression. Oh yea, make sure the cylinder that you are pressurizing is at TDC.

I think I covered the whole procedure.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 11:42 AM
  #17  
deadbeatrec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,139
Likes: 0
From: Albany, NY
thats serious. haha thanks

i think i will let the deal do it. its not my car, even though im concerned, im not that concerned. haha but thanks!!!
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 12:10 PM
  #18  
hokiruu's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,004
Likes: 2
From: Truckee, CA
interesting. please keep us updated.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 01:21 PM
  #19  
RazorLab's Avatar
EvoM Guru
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 14,094
Likes: 1,092
From: Mid-Hudson, NY
leaky throttle body gaskets are pretty common on the Evo 9's. I think they just got sloppy with the build on the 9 throttle bodies. I've had 9's with 2000 miles in the shop with bad gaskets. Way more than 8's.

If you do the pressure test and you hear the air from throttle body and it changes pitch when you move or press down on the body shaft then it is the seals.

Obviously this has nothing to do with your low cyl compression numbers though.

I usually don't do the 5 missisippi thing though. I just crank until the needle stops jumping up. You also don't need to disconnect any sensors. Just make sure you are WOT when you are doing the cranking, this will shut off the injectors.

Leak down test is actually easier than it sounds. I use a ratchet extension place (carefully!) into the cyl and use a wrench to move that specific cylinder to TDC. Then I perform the leak test. You need an air compressor for this test.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 03:59 PM
  #20  
C6C6CH3vo's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,223
Likes: 4
From: sc
Arrow

Originally Posted by 9sec9
Since 1 and 2 are nearly the same, could be leak at the head gasket too.
If the leakdown test does not bring 1 and 2 up to 3 and 4, then it's probably a gasket.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 07:39 PM
  #21  
deadbeatrec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,139
Likes: 0
From: Albany, NY
Originally Posted by razorlab
leaky throttle body gaskets are pretty common on the Evo 9's. I think they just got sloppy with the build on the 9 throttle bodies. I've had 9's with 2000 miles in the shop with bad gaskets. Way more than 8's.

If you do the pressure test and you hear the air from throttle body and it changes pitch when you move or press down on the body shaft then it is the seals.

Obviously this has nothing to do with your low cyl compression numbers though.

I usually don't do the 5 missisippi thing though. I just crank until the needle stops jumping up. You also don't need to disconnect any sensors. Just make sure you are WOT when you are doing the cranking, this will shut off the injectors.

Leak down test is actually easier than it sounds. I use a ratchet extension place (carefully!) into the cyl and use a wrench to move that specific cylinder to TDC. Then I perform the leak test. You need an air compressor for this test.
this is exactly what was happening. he called the dealer and they are going to "look at it"
haha

so we will see.

as far as the leak down test, i have a compressor but im still not sure of exactly what u do here. i will leave that to the pros until i know what im doing. im not going to F up someones car u know. but i def apreciate all the responces.

that lil bastard wont post here for some reason. i told him too.

Paul get us *** on here and post something!
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 07:49 PM
  #22  
Curt@MrLed's Avatar
Former Vendor
iTrader: (107)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,364
Likes: 0
From: A.K.A. DaFarmer
Dont forget when doing a leak down test to have someone hold the crank with a breaker bar so the engine doesnt turn when the air is supplied.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 12:23 PM
  #23  
deadbeatrec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,139
Likes: 0
From: Albany, NY
holy **** guys read this email i just got from the kid whos car this is


"ok the dealership told me this:
that they did not do a compression check because it was a customer request and if i wanted one done it was 350 dollars. also they told me that did a engine check and everything checked out fine including the boost being where it should and i asked the guy bout the gage and he said thats it measures boost to air ratio and is not actually a boost gage (so then what the **** is the point of the thing i have).
what do u think"


boost to air ratio ? wtf?


i told him they were feeding him BS

Last edited by deadbeatrec; Jun 3, 2008 at 12:25 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 12:33 PM
  #24  
deadbeatrec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,139
Likes: 0
From: Albany, NY
what i am going to do is, i have an extra boost gage around so i will hook that one up and read what that one says.

as far as i know the stock gage is mechanical correct? wtf? y does mitsubishi have to be so gay about this
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 01:26 PM
  #25  
PVD04's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,503
Likes: 0
From: Wisconsin
Originally Posted by deadbeatrec
what i am going to do is, i have an extra boost gage around so i will hook that one up and read what that one says.

as far as i know the stock gage is mechanical correct? wtf? y does mitsubishi have to be so gay about this
The stock gauge is mechanical.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 05:40 PM
  #26  
deadbeatrec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,139
Likes: 0
From: Albany, NY
Originally Posted by PVD04
The stock gauge is mechanical.
they are feeding him lines of bs
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 10:29 PM
  #27  
EVOllie's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 317
Likes: 1
From: Bel Air, Maryland
Originally Posted by deadbeatrec
holy **** guys read this email i just got from the kid whos car this is


"ok the dealership told me this:
that they did not do a compression check because it was a customer request and if i wanted one done it was 350 dollars. also they told me that did a engine check and everything checked out fine including the boost being where it should and i asked the guy bout the gage and he said thats it measures boost to air ratio and is not actually a boost gage (so then what the **** is the point of the thing i have).
what do u think"


boost to air ratio ? wtf?


i told him they were feeding him BS
Boost to air ratio gauge?....interesting.
and $350 for a test? what do they charge $65 a min?
Until they make valves and pistons with sensors in them, doing a scan isnt going to do anything.
Either there really retarted or just didnt want to work on the car. that simple.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 10:44 PM
  #28  
EVOllie's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 317
Likes: 1
From: Bel Air, Maryland
lmao i just thought of what the dealer said about the boost gauge....it reads in BAR units not psi,

So i guess he thinks it stands for Boost to Air Ratio

1 bar to us is 14.5psi, what it means to dealer i have no idea.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 10:57 PM
  #29  
EvoBroMA's Avatar
Evolved Member
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,345
Likes: 1
From: MA
this story keeps getting better... its too bad your friend is clueless, dealerships love guys like him.
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 04:44 AM
  #30  
deadbeatrec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,139
Likes: 0
From: Albany, NY
Originally Posted by dexmix
this story keeps getting better... its too bad your friend is clueless, dealerships love guys like him.
yes but he has the edge, he is my friend. haha

we will win this battle if i have to go over there and kick them in the *** myself.
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:21 PM.