585+ whp cars.

 

Congrats man. I can only imagine how stoked you are to finally get a chance to drive it There is no question Dave and BR build the badest 4gs on the planet . Enjoy her man and let her take you for the drive of your life Dont let the hating get to you. All the hate is amusing and mostly jealousy

 

Yea thats true Tim! lol

And no, I cant wait to get to drive it! Its killing me knowing that it has been ready for almost a week now, and there is nothing I can do about it!

 

Man that is a fast mover

 

The hate doesnt bother me, its just that when someone bashes a friend, I will stand up for them! No matter what! I believe that if you stand up for someone, they will remember it and when you need help, they will be there for you! And I truly believe that Buschur will do that!

 

Buschur's MD apparantly reads about 5 percent lower than a typical Dynojet according to his latest trip from his dyno to switzers, a gain of 34 whp at a 530whp level, so it really isn't that low reading

Just posting up the most recent data I can find.

That would place switzers car at about 590 on pump gas, on a REGULAR 35R on Buschur's "heartbraker", that is astonishing.

Scorke

 

Ok, so that means Jeffs car is at 610, Tim and Eric are at about 590, and my car is at about 565 untill I get my new manifold, and if that does the same on my car as it did on Daves, I should be around 590 on just meth.

I guess our cars are doing to bad!

And one last thing, all of our cars will be Driven on the street on a regular basis and raced ALOT!

The car build by Switzer to my knowledge has barely been driven and never raced.

So there is nothing to back up its reliablility or performance.

All the Buschur cars have been to the track and backed up their power with times!

My car will be at the track very soon!

 

NIce!

I understand that, but you have no idea about how often that car was driven, the owner doesnt post on here for all we know, nor do we know anything about it really, so don't say its not driven often or hard, nobody knows.

This whole raced a "lot" thing really doesnt prove too much to me, taking a car down a track for 10 seconds is nothing in terms of wear and tear on a motor, take any of these pump gas monsters out on road courses for 20-40 minute sessions a couple times a year and that my friend will be impressive! The amount of load, wear, heat, vibrations, rpms, g's, and everything else a car faces around a road course are so much more severe, and testing than anything that can be replicated on a drag strip.

The daily driving aspect is definately impressive, shows that the cars are usable!

Scorke

 

Thanks.

I believe it was Dave that said last he knew, the car was sitting infront of Switzers for sale. So Id assume that if its for sale infront of Switzers, it hasnt really been beatin on. Once again, thats just an assumption.

And Id still say that Drag racing puts quite a bit of a beating on a car. These cars all launch at 7k and shift around 9.5k. That high of revving puts quite a bit of a beating on the engine.

And to respond to road racing, I would like to road race, but its far more expensive, and there arent really any road courses that are easy to get on around me.

I have 3 drag strips within 2 hours of my apartment. So its far more convenient.

Thanks tho.
Brian

 

celica, do me a favor, ignore the low powered hater.

I am sure the car Switzer built is plenty reliable, no reason to think it is not. I don't know how much it is or isn't driven. I was at his shop today, it was sitting in the parking lot. I didn't ask what it going on with it as I could care less. The only people who care are the idiots trying to start trouble.

I see a pattern here. If YOUR car sucks and doesn't make good power then anyone who does has a car that can't do XX without breaking. Get a life or a new hobby. The BS and hate is getting old.

Go build a car yourself that makes 530+ on 93 octane on our dyno run mid-10's at 135 on it, drive it thousands of miles reliably, street race it and enjoy it then come back and let us all know how easy it is or how easy it is on the car.

I don't care to hear about anyone else's slow junk or how autocrossing or road racing is harder on a car. I've done them all and done well at them all.

Wake up.

 

Will do DB! Im sure Switzer makes great cars also, he was in business with you for a long time! And not many can say that!

I cant wait till Wednesday! I havent been able to take this smile off my face since last Thursday just thinking about firing it up! God its going to be amazing! THen its time to get used to it and get it to the track! Gotta make sure I post times so that everyone knows ALL your cars will do what they are claimed to be capable of!

As you always say....Time Slips dont lie!

 

Mid Ohio, one of the best in the country is one and half hours away.

Put some real brake fluid in, some decent tires and give it ago, I promise you nothing will put a bigger smile on your face than passing porsches, vipers, vettes, ferraris whilst doing 160mph, going sidways, and rotating while braking :0

Scorke

 

I know mid-ohio is very close. But they are also extemely difficult to get on! Plus it cost quite a bit more.

I have damn good fluid in, Z1* specs and soon a damn good suspension. The problem is its my DD and if while passing those cars, one loses control and takes me out, my car is F'd up until I can get it fixed! And im not about to go through that as of now.

If I ever have a shop and can afford multiple cars for different types of racing, I want to go A- Drag, B- Road, and C- Rally! I love all types of racing, its just drag is most convienient as of now and the most affordable! I am a college student, that works, and also plays golf for my college. Add those 3 things together and you get very little left over time.

Hell my car has been siiting at Buschur's done since last Thursday and Wednesday is the first day I could beg off work to get up there and pick it up!

And I have been smiling from ear to ear the whole time thinking about the first drive! Its going to be Christmas for me!

 

Celica and I have had some good discussion via pm's and this thread, no reason to attack me for conversing and talking with one of your customers.

I'm not the one on the attack here but I don't remember your magnum program lasting that long, how many events did it enter, how many did it run? What happened to your car last year at mid ohio? Was your goal to push something a little too far and blow your motor to pieces competing at nationals or am I remembering incorrectly?

Get any of these pump gas monsters to run within +/- one second around mid ohio for 30 minutes and that will impress me, since it's oh so easy, it shouldnt be a trouble?

Lastly Dave I don't want or need a car that makes 530hp on 93 octane. Trying to make a car that makes that much power turn and stop like it should requires 30 grand in parts, I don't have the time or money, or need for a car that will out run full blown race cars on track, would I love one , yes, but no need. A five thousand dollar set of brakes, five thousand dollar set of coilovers, five thousand dollars of safety equipment, five thousand dollars of wheels/tires/diffs are needed to make that much power work properly on the evo chassis, I don't have that kind of cash.

Also, as much as you might encourage your customers, and or do it yourself, I do not support, condone, or like to participate in street racing, takes no skill whilst maximizing risks to the participants and public in general.

Don't pretend road racing is easy, its far more difficult than any other form of motorsports from the build, engineering, and driving point of view, nothing but rally compares. IF you disagree send out one of these machines to a road course on the tune they run at the track, lets see how they last. I'll give them 2-3 track days, then they will end up like the magnum.

Scorke

 

Hey, he never said it was easy or cheap, he just said he has done it.

And also, I dont approve or participate in street racing. One of my friends lost his license for over 2 years for street racing, and another one of my friends is about to loose his for life for street racing and then running from the cops! Also, 500+ hp street racing can get very dangerous, very fast!

And David doesnt condone it. If you dont believe me, ask Tom (9sec9), he was there when Dave as talking about how dangerous it is to street race due to how fast these cars accelerate. As Dave told me, his car gets to 121 in 6 seconds and 1/8th mile. In that amount of time, if someone pulls out in front of you, your both dead. And I know for a fact, Dave doesnt want that for any of his customers.

Also, if I had gone in there and asked for a Road Race car, I am sure that Dave, Dan and the rest of the guys up there could build me an amazing Road Track car. But when I went up there, I asked for a car that would go 10s on pump and 9s on race. I believe they build me the exact car that I asked for!

So could we please stop this bashing and crap. Im sick of all this talk about how great road racing is and how its better than drag. Well it takes a great car and a great driver to do any type of racing.

If it was easy, then John Force would be a great Road Racer, and so on. But its not that easy. Each person has their own nack of what they like and are good at. Some chose to Drag, some choose to Road, and some choose to rally.

I chose to Drag race (along with the other guys)
You choose to Road race.

There for, I will do what I enjoy (go fast as hell in a straight line for 10 seconds)!
And you will fly through the curves on a twisty track.

I am done with this never ending debate.

Now back to my car, and the end to this off topic stuff. If I have to, I will ask the mods to clean this thread up. I DO NOT want it LOCKED, so please, lets get back on topic, and off the topic of bashing.

Thank You