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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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un recirculated stock bov

I did this to mine a few weeks ago and jus recirculated it today. Anyone ever try this?
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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You un-recirculated it, then you RE-recirculated it? What for?
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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cuz i jus wanted to try it out and it ran perfectly once i plugged where it recirculated but realized i really couldn't keep at an idle speed when it started to boost
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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hey man, im not gonna give you sh*t about this like some other people would, but alot of us who know our cars, know that our cars are not setup to be vent to atmosphere. your car wont run right if you dont recirculate it.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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put a cone filter instead of your stock intake box and the bov will be much louder.

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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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but the car did run fine and didn"t stall at all
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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it makes the car run rich i believe, its not good for your plugs, you could foul them
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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I couldnt tell the difference cuz the car ran the same even when it was recirculated. How could u tell if it ran rich?
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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well, there are several signs. for one, your MPGs will go down noticably, your plugs will foul, you'll shorten the life on your cat (assuming you have one) and durring wide open throttle pulls you will notice black smoke coming from the tail pipe. oh, and your check engine light might come on from anyone of these things.

the problem comes from the location of the stock mass airflow sensor. it is located before the compressor. the "overflow" air from the upper intercooler pipe bleeds off into your inlet pipe before the compressor, im not sure how exactly this keeps the car in check, but hey, Mr. Mitsubishi worked it all out that way. if you want that loud swoosh noise when you shift or after partial throttle, then buy a turbosmart dual-pot BOV, they will allow you to vent half the air to atmosphere, and half to the inlet pipe, still not a complete solution, but much better than Venting your stocker to atmosphere.

buy yourself a Cone intake, and keep it recirculated, you'll be able to hear it much better that way, and not risk as many problems. but be warned, if you start modding your car, you will never stop, it will eat at your wallet like a cancer...
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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well, there are several signs. for one, your MPGs will go down noticably, your plugs will foul, you'll shorten the life on your cat (assuming you have one) and durring wide open throttle pulls you will notice black smoke coming from the tail pipe. oh, and your check engine light might come on from anyone of these things.

the problem comes from the location of the stock mass airflow sensor. it is located before the compressor. the "overflow" air from the upper intercooler pipe bleeds off into your inlet pipe before the compressor, im not sure how exactly this keeps the car in check, but hey, Mr. Mitsubishi worked it all out that way. if you want that loud swoosh noise when you shift or after partial throttle, then buy a turbosmart dual-pot BOV, they will allow you to vent half the air to atmosphere, and half to the inlet pipe, still not a complete solution, but much better than Venting your stocker to atmosphere.

buy yourself a Cone intake, and keep it recirculated, you'll be able to hear it much better that way, and not risk as many problems. but be warned, if you start modding your car, you will never stop, it will eat at your wallet like a cancer...

Actually... The only time its really affected is while shifting or letting off the gas. Not recirculating causes the car to go rich and bogs the car down. It doesnt affect your car making power, it affects the speed. Cone filter is the way to go.

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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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there are several ways to get a VTA blow off valve, i'll save you the trouble of searching, but this is a freebee cause im bored.

option 1 (easiest, not true VTA though)
dual port blow-off valve (SWOOOOSH!)

option 2 (stupid waste of money unless you are doing because of the addition of meth)
MafT or MafT Pro unit will allow you to us a GM air sensor and tell your tuner that you want to run VTA when you get it all installed.

option 3 (stupid waste of money unless you have a heavily modified car, and need more tuning options)
Buy an aftermarket EMS and run a Speed density setup instead of mass air flow (most commonly used when upgrading your turbo... after you get all the bolt ons...)

note: if i say stupid waste of money, i mean that it would be a waste if you were only doing it to run VTA

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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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Actually... The only time its really affected is while shifting or letting off the gas. Not recirculating causes the car to go rich and bogs the car down. It doesnt affect your car making power, it affects the speed. Cone filter is the way to go.

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tell me where i said anything about it affecting the cars "power"
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Davethewave
well, there are several signs. for one, your MPGs will go down noticably, your plugs will foul, you'll shorten the life on your cat (assuming you have one) and durring wide open throttle pulls you will notice black smoke coming from the tail pipe. oh, and your check engine light might come on from anyone of these things.

the problem comes from the location of the stock mass airflow sensor. it is located before the compressor. the "overflow" air from the upper intercooler pipe bleeds off into your inlet pipe before the compressor, im not sure how exactly this keeps the car in check, but hey, Mr. Mitsubishi worked it all out that way. if you want that loud swoosh noise when you shift or after partial throttle, then buy a turbosmart dual-pot BOV, they will allow you to vent half the air to atmosphere, and half to the inlet pipe, still not a complete solution, but much better than Venting your stocker to atmosphere.

buy yourself a Cone intake, and keep it recirculated, you'll be able to hear it much better that way, and not risk as many problems. but be warned, if you start modding your car, you will never stop, it will eat at your wallet like a cancer...
thanks for the advice. the only thing i really noticed was the lower mpg. luckily i recirculated it i guess. but yea i haven't even modded my car yet and i already feel like a fiend cuz i want to so bad lol
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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cone intake...
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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getting an injen intake
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