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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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at how many lbs would you suggest replacing head studs
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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Definitely get them now.
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dudical26
1st - The head does not come off the car when you install cams
2nd - you do not need head studs on an Evo IX running 23 psi

I run 31 psi on stock headstuds with no problem.

If you are running less than 25psi you absolutley don't need head studs.
This is very true. I am living proof that running over 25 psi on stock heads studs is not a good combo. My problem was boosting deep into 5th gear tho

Do the head studs and be safe.

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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 02:31 PM
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Never skimp on things that will protect your car. I'm getting rod bolts and head studs on mine and won't be pushing over 25psi.

The parts are cheap and the labor is either free if you DIY or worth every penny if you have a shop do it.
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by saev
Never skimp on things that will protect your car. I'm getting rod bolts and head studs on mine and won't be pushing over 25psi.

The parts are cheap and the labor is either free if you DIY or worth every penny if you have a shop do it.
There's also going way overboard for no reason, which is what it seems like in your case unless you have some other reason to remove the head.

26+psi for 3 years now on stock head bolts on a daily driven, constantly-raced Evo. Labor on rod bolts and head studs is NOT free as most people can't do it themselves, and if they do, then my guess is they are not doing it the proper way (i.e. removing the head for head studs). That is a lot of money to pay a shop for something you don't need. If the head needs to be removed for some other reason, then it would be a mistake NOT to do the swap. I will be doing mine if and when the head comes off (hasn't yet in 4 years of abuse).

OP, consider all of this input and make your decision accordingly.
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by compscibOi
Exact same mentality as me. If you are going to be in the engine, why not just do them? No you don't NEED them at 23 lbs of boost, but eventually if you are going to do it, you might as well just do it now. It won't hurt anything, it will actually help. They cost a whopping $99 bucks. Cheap insurance IMHO!
Eh? When did he say he was going to be "in the engine"? Doing cams is not "in the engine" in terms of headstuds. You have to remove the entire head to properly install new headstuds, and installing cams does not include this.

The $99 studs are not the proper ones. Some believe those may not even be stronger than the stock bolts. The new L19s are the ones to use.
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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i agree with a couple of ppl..get them now..cause eventually you'll want to upgrade the turbo etc....i did mine when i got my 272s put in with a thicker headgasket...well i got my head meachined also..but i'd get both headstuds and injectors
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RalliartMR
i agree with a couple of ppl..get them now..cause eventually you'll want to upgrade the turbo etc....i did mine when i got my 272s put in with a thicker headgasket...well i got my head meachined also..but i'd get both headstuds and injectors
That's a huge difference, though - your head came off. He won't be removing his head. He also has no use for injectors. Those can be added at any time.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Eh? When did he say he was going to be "in the engine"? Doing cams is not "in the engine" in terms of headstuds. You have to remove the entire head to properly install new headstuds, and installing cams does not include this.

The $99 studs are not the proper ones. Some believe those may not even be stronger than the stock bolts. The new L19s are the ones to use.
It's $99 bucks. Do it.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 01:34 AM
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The $99 ones are not that strong. Very poor advice you're giving.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 02:23 AM
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+1^^... people seem to be doing the headstuds on a whim IMHO. I only did mine when the head came off.. not because I felt it was necessary. I'm running boost anywhere between 22-27psi only because of different fuel tunes... Anyway, doing things to get ready for upgrades are great, but why not do the things that give you instant gratification.. and without compromise of reliability.. Studs aren't it.. and with your current and future set-up, injectors can wait a bit too... and who are you going to get tuned by.. I didn't read everything, but ask your tuner for advice and why they chose to go that route... GL either way
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 02:47 AM
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If your doing cams then obviously do them.. why pay labor twice on removal of cams to install head studs do it right the first time
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 02:51 AM
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guys... head doesn't move when cams are installed...
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 03:11 AM
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Ya but you need to remove the cams to put the studs no? so why have to remove cams twice
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 03:21 AM
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If You are talking about studs.. I ask , Is there need to change main studs and rod bolts?
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