BF 272 Cam Specs
migsubishi, I actually took quite a bit offense to this part that you wrote:
"If they made that clear to me I wouldn't have purchased them and will not purchase anything else from them. AMS so far has been straight forward on everything I talk to them about. So I will be ordering my Juns through them sometime this week."
I'd say that is bashing if you ask me. You bought EVO cams for a 2g and got mad that they didn't come with a cam card. Using your example of the entertainment center I'd like to make a point. If I bought an entertainment center for a room with 16' ceilings and I had a house with 8' ceilings I wouldn't be mad at the guy I bought it from.............
94awd or mig, if either of you can provide me with proof that I knew those cams were getting installed in a 2g DSM and I recommended to either of you to buy them I will refund the full price AND the shipping it cost you to send them back. I do not recall at all knowing they were going into a 2g engine. I do not pay attention to what kind of car someone has, not on EVOm, I assume they have an EVO. Find me a PM or e-mail, send it to me and I will refund the money. I have NEVER suggested running these cams in a 2g, unless I was hitting a crack pipe.
I think that is fair enough.
"If they made that clear to me I wouldn't have purchased them and will not purchase anything else from them. AMS so far has been straight forward on everything I talk to them about. So I will be ordering my Juns through them sometime this week."
I'd say that is bashing if you ask me. You bought EVO cams for a 2g and got mad that they didn't come with a cam card. Using your example of the entertainment center I'd like to make a point. If I bought an entertainment center for a room with 16' ceilings and I had a house with 8' ceilings I wouldn't be mad at the guy I bought it from.............
94awd or mig, if either of you can provide me with proof that I knew those cams were getting installed in a 2g DSM and I recommended to either of you to buy them I will refund the full price AND the shipping it cost you to send them back. I do not recall at all knowing they were going into a 2g engine. I do not pay attention to what kind of car someone has, not on EVOm, I assume they have an EVO. Find me a PM or e-mail, send it to me and I will refund the money. I have NEVER suggested running these cams in a 2g, unless I was hitting a crack pipe.
I think that is fair enough.
You were probably on the pipe..
migsubishi, I actually took quite a bit offense to this part that you wrote:
"If they made that clear to me I wouldn't have purchased them and will not purchase anything else from them. AMS so far has been straight forward on everything I talk to them about. So I will be ordering my Juns through them sometime this week."
I'd say that is bashing if you ask me. You bought EVO cams for a 2g and got mad that they didn't come with a cam card. Using your example of the entertainment center I'd like to make a point. If I bought an entertainment center for a room with 16' ceilings and I had a house with 8' ceilings I wouldn't be mad at the guy I bought it from.............
94awd or mig, if either of you can provide me with proof that I knew those cams were getting installed in a 2g DSM and I recommended to either of you to buy them I will refund the full price AND the shipping it cost you to send them back. I do not recall at all knowing they were going into a 2g engine. I do not pay attention to what kind of car someone has, not on EVOm, I assume they have an EVO. Find me a PM or e-mail, send it to me and I will refund the money. I have NEVER suggested running these cams in a 2g, unless I was hitting a crack pipe.
I think that is fair enough.
"If they made that clear to me I wouldn't have purchased them and will not purchase anything else from them. AMS so far has been straight forward on everything I talk to them about. So I will be ordering my Juns through them sometime this week."
I'd say that is bashing if you ask me. You bought EVO cams for a 2g and got mad that they didn't come with a cam card. Using your example of the entertainment center I'd like to make a point. If I bought an entertainment center for a room with 16' ceilings and I had a house with 8' ceilings I wouldn't be mad at the guy I bought it from.............
94awd or mig, if either of you can provide me with proof that I knew those cams were getting installed in a 2g DSM and I recommended to either of you to buy them I will refund the full price AND the shipping it cost you to send them back. I do not recall at all knowing they were going into a 2g engine. I do not pay attention to what kind of car someone has, not on EVOm, I assume they have an EVO. Find me a PM or e-mail, send it to me and I will refund the money. I have NEVER suggested running these cams in a 2g, unless I was hitting a crack pipe.
I think that is fair enough.
Listen man, I'm not here to bash you, and if I hurt your feelings I appologize it is not my intent. I just lost an engine and I'm barely making it putting another one together. I need all the $$$ I have, its not flowing out of everywhere for me. So when someone takes my money no matter how big or small the amount for nonsense yes it angers me.
I'm a fan and really respect you and your work and wouldn't purposly bash or try to offend you for any reason. I just don't believe its right for you to do me wrong like your doing.
You know these cams will work in a dsm, but you also know I need a cam card to do it per 94awdcoupes post. You did not include it as I believed I was buying a complete cam kit. I don't care about the shipping, I just want a full refund and call it a day.
I will pm you the convo I can find about my engine.
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Ah lovely e-thuging at it's best. I'm not on any vendors nutz. I don't own a single BR part nor have I layed arm in arm with the man I asked question on this forum and make comment were I can but you did bash him and that wasn't called for. But because I called you out on it your going to bash me but the vendor calls you out and you chill? I was actually going to give you a big thumbs up for putting a 2g DSM in a Honda which is great I've been a honda guy for years and still own my turbo Si. But dude no need to get all girly and say I'm on the mans dick. Notice DB didn't run to my rescue all he did was point out your comment.
Dave thank you for answering the question about not reveling the specs on your cams. I was just trying to do some comparison shopping. But for my setup I'm going to go with the GSC S2's
Dave thank you for answering the question about not reveling the specs on your cams. I was just trying to do some comparison shopping. But for my setup I'm going to go with the GSC S2's
Ah lovely e-thuging at it's best. I'm not on any vendors nutz. I don't own a single BR part nor have I layed arm in arm with the man I asked question on this forum and make comment were I can but you did bash him and that wasn't called for. But because I called you out on it your going to bash me but the vendor calls you out and you chill? I was actually going to give you a big thumbs up for putting a 2g DSM in a Honda which is great I've been a honda guy for years and still own my turbo Si. But dude no need to get all girly and say I'm on the mans dick. Notice DB didn't run to my rescue all he did was point out your comment.
Dave thank you for answering the question about not reveling the specs on your cams. I was just trying to do some comparison shopping. But for my setup I'm going to go with the GSC S2's
Dave thank you for answering the question about not reveling the specs on your cams. I was just trying to do some comparison shopping. But for my setup I'm going to go with the GSC S2's
Atleast I now know what your screen name stands for "D"= Davids "Ballz" = *****
Gl with all that and have a good day, feel free to pm me if you have anything else to say unless you enjoy being an ethug antagonists.... Otherwise I have nothing left to say to you
Not giving out opening and closing events is one thing, but not including a centerline to degree is pretty amazing coming from someone as knowledgeable with racing parts and engine builds as David is.
On the other hand I can see where David is coming from it always amazed me that the evo community doesn’t degree camshafts when installing. I bet out of the 1,243 sets of Evo 8 camshafts we have sold here at GSC 20 people with S1 and S2 camshafts have degree'd them. Heck Paul Nelson’s 1117whp ANIMAL using our S3 camshafts weren’t even degree’d.
On the other hand I can see where David is coming from it always amazed me that the evo community doesn’t degree camshafts when installing. I bet out of the 1,243 sets of Evo 8 camshafts we have sold here at GSC 20 people with S1 and S2 camshafts have degree'd them. Heck Paul Nelson’s 1117whp ANIMAL using our S3 camshafts weren’t even degree’d.
Not giving out opening and closing events is one thing, but not including a centerline to degree is pretty amazing coming from someone as knowledgeable with racing parts and engine builds as David is.
On the other hand I can see where David is coming from it always amazed me that the evo community doesn’t degree camshafts when installing. I bet out of the 1,243 sets of Evo 8 camshafts we have sold here at GSC 20 people with S1 and S2 camshafts have degree'd them. Heck Paul Nelson’s 1117whp ANIMAL using our S3 camshafts weren’t even degree’d.
On the other hand I can see where David is coming from it always amazed me that the evo community doesn’t degree camshafts when installing. I bet out of the 1,243 sets of Evo 8 camshafts we have sold here at GSC 20 people with S1 and S2 camshafts have degree'd them. Heck Paul Nelson’s 1117whp ANIMAL using our S3 camshafts weren’t even degree’d.
This got way out of hand, my appologies....
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OMG your still on the I'm on his ***** stuff huh? Ok Mig I'm on his nutz your better then me and everyone else in the United States. Oh miguel please stop with the verbal assaults my old *** might start crying. Dude you a joke. Lock this thread down ignorance has taken over
OMG your still on the I'm on his ***** stuff huh? Ok Mig I'm on his nutz your better then me and everyone else in the United States. Oh miguel please stop with the verbal assaults my old *** might start crying. Dude you a joke. Lock this thread down ignorance has taken over
Please spare me, my hands are behind my head, put your keyboard down I surrender
it's pretty simple. if you want to degree your cams don't buy BF 272. however, i hope you are the exception and get it resolved. i if you don't get a refund, then your other option might be to spend a few extra dollars and have if run through a cam doctor service to tell you what you need to know. buschur should publish the CL specs though.
i ask Greg some additional info to degree the gsc2 and what a service,he told me more than i need,anyway i want to hear the engine running and didnt degree it, put the marks in 0 and went to the dyno,after 1 hour playing with the cams,ended in 0 marks again cause it was the sweet spot.i believe Buschur cams have same quality when talking about tolerances.cant say the same for brian crower.


