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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
migsubishi, I actually took quite a bit offense to this part that you wrote:

"If they made that clear to me I wouldn't have purchased them and will not purchase anything else from them. AMS so far has been straight forward on everything I talk to them about. So I will be ordering my Juns through them sometime this week."

I'd say that is bashing if you ask me. You bought EVO cams for a 2g and got mad that they didn't come with a cam card. Using your example of the entertainment center I'd like to make a point. If I bought an entertainment center for a room with 16' ceilings and I had a house with 8' ceilings I wouldn't be mad at the guy I bought it from.............

94awd or mig, if either of you can provide me with proof that I knew those cams were getting installed in a 2g DSM and I recommended to either of you to buy them I will refund the full price AND the shipping it cost you to send them back. I do not recall at all knowing they were going into a 2g engine. I do not pay attention to what kind of car someone has, not on EVOm, I assume they have an EVO. Find me a PM or e-mail, send it to me and I will refund the money. I have NEVER suggested running these cams in a 2g, unless I was hitting a crack pipe.

I think that is fair enough.

You were probably on the pipe..
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
migsubishi, I actually took quite a bit offense to this part that you wrote:

"If they made that clear to me I wouldn't have purchased them and will not purchase anything else from them. AMS so far has been straight forward on everything I talk to them about. So I will be ordering my Juns through them sometime this week."

I'd say that is bashing if you ask me. You bought EVO cams for a 2g and got mad that they didn't come with a cam card. Using your example of the entertainment center I'd like to make a point. If I bought an entertainment center for a room with 16' ceilings and I had a house with 8' ceilings I wouldn't be mad at the guy I bought it from.............

94awd or mig, if either of you can provide me with proof that I knew those cams were getting installed in a 2g DSM and I recommended to either of you to buy them I will refund the full price AND the shipping it cost you to send them back. I do not recall at all knowing they were going into a 2g engine. I do not pay attention to what kind of car someone has, not on EVOm, I assume they have an EVO. Find me a PM or e-mail, send it to me and I will refund the money. I have NEVER suggested running these cams in a 2g, unless I was hitting a crack pipe.

I think that is fair enough.
Ok Dave I found the pm you asked for where you knew what I was putting the cams into. I had another but can't find it. I will pm it to you. The point is that you didn't suggest anything, you didn't even give me a suggestion on turbo choice I asked about in another pm. You did say that you had a cam for dsm that acted similar. Ask yourself this, why would I want to put something no one has ever heard of in my engine? No I want what works and is proven, I told you what I had and what I wanted to do. If you at any point in time warned me or told me about them being mystery cams I would have respected your decission to keep secret and not have bought them.

Listen man, I'm not here to bash you, and if I hurt your feelings I appologize it is not my intent. I just lost an engine and I'm barely making it putting another one together. I need all the $$$ I have, its not flowing out of everywhere for me. So when someone takes my money no matter how big or small the amount for nonsense yes it angers me.

I'm a fan and really respect you and your work and wouldn't purposly bash or try to offend you for any reason. I just don't believe its right for you to do me wrong like your doing.

You know these cams will work in a dsm, but you also know I need a cam card to do it per 94awdcoupes post. You did not include it as I believed I was buying a complete cam kit. I don't care about the shipping, I just want a full refund and call it a day.

I will pm you the convo I can find about my engine.
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 11:57 PM
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you guys should settle this via pm's
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JC evo1
you guys should settle this via pm's
Agreed it was never supposed to get all blown out like this. It's in pm's now...
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Migsubishi
get off Buschurs nuts
Ah lovely e-thuging at it's best. I'm not on any vendors nutz. I don't own a single BR part nor have I layed arm in arm with the man I asked question on this forum and make comment were I can but you did bash him and that wasn't called for. But because I called you out on it your going to bash me but the vendor calls you out and you chill? I was actually going to give you a big thumbs up for putting a 2g DSM in a Honda which is great I've been a honda guy for years and still own my turbo Si. But dude no need to get all girly and say I'm on the mans dick. Notice DB didn't run to my rescue all he did was point out your comment.

Dave thank you for answering the question about not reveling the specs on your cams. I was just trying to do some comparison shopping. But for my setup I'm going to go with the GSC S2's
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DBallz
Ah lovely e-thuging at it's best. I'm not on any vendors nutz. I don't own a single BR part nor have I layed arm in arm with the man I asked question on this forum and make comment were I can but you did bash him and that wasn't called for. But because I called you out on it your going to bash me but the vendor calls you out and you chill? I was actually going to give you a big thumbs up for putting a 2g DSM in a Honda which is great I've been a honda guy for years and still own my turbo Si. But dude no need to get all girly and say I'm on the mans dick. Notice DB didn't run to my rescue all he did was point out your comment.

Dave thank you for answering the question about not reveling the specs on your cams. I was just trying to do some comparison shopping. But for my setup I'm going to go with the GSC S2's
Dud your a moron, and nothing you said has made any sense. Buschur said I offended him, that doesn't mean I bashed him. Its funny that you yourself couldn't point out anything because there was nothing. You are an antagonist and a problem starter looking for attention. Get off the mans nuts and go do your homework or something... This is getting rediculous. You have been called out by 3 different posters in here that you are way off target and now its obvious that your just an ethuging nut swinger that loves to insite BS.

Atleast I now know what your screen name stands for "D"= Davids "Ballz" = *****

Gl with all that and have a good day, feel free to pm me if you have anything else to say unless you enjoy being an ethug antagonists.... Otherwise I have nothing left to say to you
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 07:58 AM
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it seems as though both mig and david have addressed the issue that arose, might as well close this thread. as the OP question has already been answered by david
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by joseph k
it seems as though both mig and david have addressed the issue that arose, might as well close this thread. as the OP question has already been answered by david
Again +1 You sir make much sense
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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Not giving out opening and closing events is one thing, but not including a centerline to degree is pretty amazing coming from someone as knowledgeable with racing parts and engine builds as David is.

On the other hand I can see where David is coming from it always amazed me that the evo community doesn’t degree camshafts when installing. I bet out of the 1,243 sets of Evo 8 camshafts we have sold here at GSC 20 people with S1 and S2 camshafts have degree'd them. Heck Paul Nelson’s 1117whp ANIMAL using our S3 camshafts weren’t even degree’d.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by GregGSC
Not giving out opening and closing events is one thing, but not including a centerline to degree is pretty amazing coming from someone as knowledgeable with racing parts and engine builds as David is.

On the other hand I can see where David is coming from it always amazed me that the evo community doesn’t degree camshafts when installing. I bet out of the 1,243 sets of Evo 8 camshafts we have sold here at GSC 20 people with S1 and S2 camshafts have degree'd them. Heck Paul Nelson’s 1117whp ANIMAL using our S3 camshafts weren’t even degree’d.
Thank you, this is all I was trying to say from the start. I would still have these cams if he gave me the info. I wish I lived close, I'd just bring the engine to him and have him secretly degree them and pick it up when done. I really just wanted to run them and since I didn't know he would make it impossible for me to do so I just wanted my money back.

This got way out of hand, my appologies....
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by GregGSC
I bet out of the 1,243 sets of Evo 8 camshafts we have sold here at GSC 20 people with S1 and S2 camshafts have degree'd them. Heck Paul Nelson’s 1117whp ANIMAL using our S3 camshafts weren’t even degree’d.

but who's counting right greg.....
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Migsubishi

Atleast I now know what your screen name stands for "D"= Davids "Ballz" = *****
OMG your still on the I'm on his ***** stuff huh? Ok Mig I'm on his nutz your better then me and everyone else in the United States. Oh miguel please stop with the verbal assaults my old *** might start crying. Dude you a joke. Lock this thread down ignorance has taken over
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DBallz
OMG your still on the I'm on his ***** stuff huh? Ok Mig I'm on his nutz your better then me and everyone else in the United States. Oh miguel please stop with the verbal assaults my old *** might start crying. Dude you a joke. Lock this thread down ignorance has taken over
Ok man you win already you get the ethug award of the yr...

Please spare me, my hands are behind my head, put your keyboard down I surrender
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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it's pretty simple. if you want to degree your cams don't buy BF 272. however, i hope you are the exception and get it resolved. i if you don't get a refund, then your other option might be to spend a few extra dollars and have if run through a cam doctor service to tell you what you need to know. buschur should publish the CL specs though.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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i ask Greg some additional info to degree the gsc2 and what a service,he told me more than i need,anyway i want to hear the engine running and didnt degree it, put the marks in 0 and went to the dyno,after 1 hour playing with the cams,ended in 0 marks again cause it was the sweet spot.i believe Buschur cams have same quality when talking about tolerances.cant say the same for brian crower.
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