Stage IV Evo 8 with FP Red 408 Pump - 509 Race whp
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Stage IV Evo 8 with FP Red 408 Pump - 509 Race whp
I finally had a chance to tune a stock engine / stock ecu FP Red Evo today, its been a long wait as many of my customers and myself have had these on order for a long time
My thread title above was in error as the pump gas power was higher at 430 @ 20 psi creeping up a bit to 23 psi or so at red line
This car had the following mods
Buschur Stage IV
HKS 272 Cams
Dyno Flash custom tune
880 Precision Injectors
Here is a pump gas vs. race gas dyno sheet
* Note on the pump gas we expereinced some slight boost creep which the customer worked hard to resolve by changing adjustments on the actuator and changing the actuator to the stock one and also trying two seperate o2 housings. With the bost set at 19 - 20 it would creep to 23 by red line. On race gas there was no creep
As shown by the pump gas boost level - 20 psi - the Red is not a significant advantage over the green and those who plan to stay at that boost level may prefer the green for its slightly faster spool and response between shifts.
When you start to boost over 20 psi then the red starts to shine. Just a bit laggier than a FP Green but with significantly more ***** and a serious top end.
If these red prove to be as reliable as the greens have been then I would pick this as my personal favorite.
At 28 psi 500 plus whp was easily obtained with a bone stock engine and ecu.
No doubt with head work and a AEM mid 500's at 28 - 30 psi would be within reach.
A great turbo
Al
My thread title above was in error as the pump gas power was higher at 430 @ 20 psi creeping up a bit to 23 psi or so at red line
This car had the following mods
Buschur Stage IV
HKS 272 Cams
Dyno Flash custom tune
880 Precision Injectors
Here is a pump gas vs. race gas dyno sheet
* Note on the pump gas we expereinced some slight boost creep which the customer worked hard to resolve by changing adjustments on the actuator and changing the actuator to the stock one and also trying two seperate o2 housings. With the bost set at 19 - 20 it would creep to 23 by red line. On race gas there was no creep
As shown by the pump gas boost level - 20 psi - the Red is not a significant advantage over the green and those who plan to stay at that boost level may prefer the green for its slightly faster spool and response between shifts.
When you start to boost over 20 psi then the red starts to shine. Just a bit laggier than a FP Green but with significantly more ***** and a serious top end.
If these red prove to be as reliable as the greens have been then I would pick this as my personal favorite.
At 28 psi 500 plus whp was easily obtained with a bone stock engine and ecu.
No doubt with head work and a AEM mid 500's at 28 - 30 psi would be within reach.
A great turbo
Al
Last edited by DynoFlash; Oct 4, 2008 at 09:20 PM.
^^^ I'm guessing that this is with the FP HD WGA?
I had the same boost creep on my Green on pump 93 using the HD WGA, and ended up switching back to the stock IX WGA so we could tune the car for more initial torque spike...
I had the same boost creep on my Green on pump 93 using the HD WGA, and ended up switching back to the stock IX WGA so we could tune the car for more initial torque spike...
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I wonder what the numbers would look like if the cams were different. I have an FP Red turbo about to go in with all the same mods and the same HKS 272 cams.... I'm worried these cams are a bit mild for this set up. What would be a better set of cams to go with this setup without hurting idle?
Looking at the dyno graph, the pump gas HP curve keeps climbing all the way to 7500RPM while the race gas curve climbs to 500HP at 5700RPM and just stays there all the way to 7500RPM. Almost as if it has ran out of breath at 500HP. I assume more aggressive cams would bring more life to this particular car after the 5700RPM mark on race gas.
