wiggam11

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i'm looking into the ams mustache bar delete or the buschur light weight mutache bar and th estiff bushings, anyone have expierence wiht either of thses or which way to go

dipsetinallday

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I never new ams had one.

wiggam11

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their delete plae or whatever it is

hanahawaiian

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AMS have one.., Paul had one on his 1120whp drag car. and it perfect.

wiggam11

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how bad is the noise and how hard is the instal. and i am guessing you remove the oem mustache bar and those side diff supports

Rez90

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Alright who wants a mustache ride........................

hanahawaiian

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lol..

no it not hard.. just remove Center bar and put AMS one on it.. simple task.. like 10 min with air tools or hands like 30 mins depend.

i would get AMS one

wiggam11

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so taoke off the mustache bar and pu ton ams, nothig to do with the side mounts

EricJ@AMS

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Though its not a terribly hard job, 10 minutes is selling it a bit short. The hardest part is getting the stock mustache bar out. You have to drop the rear subframe down quite a bit to get the bolts and the bar out.

wiggam11

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is tere a how to at all, or pics of what bolts et obv the mustache bar ones but what others

DANRR05

I have personally installed the Bushur mustache bar. I did it last winter. It was all day project for me. I know there people on this forum that have 1000 horse power Evo's that could probably do it 10 minutes.
Mine did not come with instructions, You need to have a grinder to make it fit. Little grinding on the subframe, but this is normal for it to fit.

My car has had a Toe out problem on both sides since I installed it. I am not saying the new bar caused it. Only way to tell is to put the stock one back on. Maybe this winter.

kouzman

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I have the Buschur unit. Way lighter than stock! When you press the gas pedal everything feels normal, but when you let go especially in 5th gear you can feel every rotation of the rear diff... LOL

Generally I am happy with the unit and now when I am aggresive in changing gears my rear diff stopped hitting the chassis...

AMA is good unit too... I know people who have it and they are happy... For AMs I got their front lower support bar with the solid mount! Exellent unit too!!!

David Buschur

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The mustache bar cannot effect the toe in the rear of the car, it is impossible. There is something else going on danrr05. The mustache bar only holds the rear of the differential in place.

Blue Evo 8

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I honestly was thinking of doing either the BR bar or the AMS unit....but in all honestly, I already have the Energy Suspension Poly-U mounts already installed in my OEM mustache bar and side differentail carriers....

One vendor on the forum, GEARS, mentioned that it is his preference to take the middle road and just do the Poly-U units. Going with the BR or AMS pieces is nicer, more $$, more stiff, I'm sure for a little bit more weight off.....

I drew my own conclusions here, spending like $275 X 2 for the parts, plus S&H, plus labor to install is not worth the 15-18 pounds I'd lose....from the rear end.

but you as the owner of the car have to do your own cost/benefit analysis and draw your own conclusions

Jrod@Buschur

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There is a big difference between the 2. Ours is a complete replacement lightweight bar. The other mentioned item is only an "eliminator" of the bar. They really are not comparable as they may "do the same thing" but they are 2 different items in that aspect.

https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...oducts_id=1092

http://www.amsperformance.com/store/...oducts_id=1640