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Convince Me: E85 or Meth?

Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:24 AM
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Convince Me: E85 or Meth?

i thought about going meth and now i'm thinking E85...i do have a E85 station in my town so no worries there...could you guys give me some pro's and con's of both and help me come to a conclusion? THANKS!!
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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There's only 1 e85 station? How far till the next one?
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:26 AM
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e85.. Safer than meth if tuned properly..
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:26 AM
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next closest is 25 miles away in the town i work in.....what do i need to run E85? bigger injectors and pump?
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:26 AM
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As for me I would not go with e85 because the closest one is like 20 mins away.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
e85.. Safer than meth if tuned properly..
so E85 will be the safest right? mainly bc its just fuel....your not throwing in another fuel tank another pump and you dont have all the failsafes like you need when you run meth? whats gonna happen if the E85 isn't tuned properly?

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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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Wow... so 2 stations w/e85? That's a gamble I would NOT be willing to take. At least with Meth, it's easier to obtain and you're not limited to 2 stations, with 20 minutes between each one.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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Wow... so 2 stations w/e85? That's a gamble I would NOT be willing to take. At least with Meth, it's easier to obtain and you're not limited to 2 stations, with 20 minutes between each one.
Well when E85 cannot be used having 93 octane map would be an option too
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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highest octane in my town is 91
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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so E85 will be the safest right? mainly bc its just fuel....your not throwing in another fuel tank another pump and you dont have all the failsafes like you need when you run meth? whats gonna happen if the E85 isn't tuned properly?
This is correct!! You do not have to have a back up plan with e85, only a cable for when you wont to switch back to 93!! The only thing you really need is injectors if you already have a walbro intank pump! I would recommend going big now, like 1000's or even 1200's. Just because any good tuner can make them idle and drive like stock!!! Also you wont need to worry about running out of fuel with the bigger injectors!
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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to run E85 you need 1000cc injectors and a fuel pump

E85 has my vote. E85 should be cheaper, but you'll be buring more gas so you'll end up spending more on gas in the end.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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so if i run E85 with 1000cc injectors how much am i gonna be able to push the injectors? i plan on keeping my 8 turbo and gettin a 10.5 housing and seeing how much i can do with that....plus it will run fine with a map switch back to 91 on 1000cc injectors? when i need to switch back for whatever reason?
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by thisxguy
to run E85 you need 1000cc injectors and a fuel pump

E85 has my vote. E85 should be cheaper, but you'll be buring more gas so you'll end up spending more on gas in the end.
yeah but E85 i would be paying 2.39/gallon and 91 would be 3.00/gallon + methanol

just seems like meth will be more expensive
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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E85 hands down, no question. You'll notice a lot of people (including well established tuners) are ditching meth in favor of E85. In fact, E85 alone is producing massive gains over meth, often without even touching the tune. You can tune more aggressively, AND more reliably with it than meth. No finnicky failsafes with failsafes for the failsafes, which can still fail like with meth. Meth is a narrow margin of safety whereas E85's is huge. You can make more power with a very conservative E85 tune than an aggressive Meth tune.

I personally consider Meth to be like an outdated band-aid solution compared to running E85, and mostly just for people who either can't get ahold of E85 in their area, drive too much in areas without it, or whose racing class doesn't allow it (if that even exists.if is meth allowed seems E85 would be).

It's the 105 octane "torque fuel" that cleans your engine and can result in up to 35% reduced tailpipe emissions, while not being middle-east oil dependent fuel to boot!

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