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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 10:00 AM
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Hope everyone adding an intake has a computer...

I added an rmr and after running it for a month, just put the stock back on. Much faster with stock. It is not subtle. I know several other evos in santa monica and everyone is saying the same thing.

Unless you tune for the intake you are just making the car louder and slower.
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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I would disagree with the above statement, as you guys in CA get basically tap water for gas
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 11:50 AM
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tap water for gas...

"Tap Water for gas" and aftermarket intake untuned=

Less power

That is my point...

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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 12:05 PM
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I installed my AEM intake and it fits pretty well (just barely touches the hood insulation) and sounds great. I do not know if there is any difference in power due to the sound as that can be decieving, but it sure doesn't take any away. I live in the land of 93 octane so I do not know if this makes a difference or not. I am going to do a Vishnu Stage 1 and I know it will have to be tweeked as Shiv does not use nor condone the use of an intake so his system is not tuned for such.
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 08:45 PM
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AN intake sould net you more HP up top no matter what mods, but if it is your only mod, it may weaken low end slightly.

I have a SAFC and leaned out the low end slightly, but the Top end will flow much more and is worth it, this kit is great but that filter is MASSIVE, just huge, I can drain an entire pot of posta in it...
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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mynameisrod, I live in San Diego and I am looking for a real good tint job. I have a shop in El Cajon called RnR Racing.

I am looking to get it tinted this week(all limo). Hey you hook me up with a good deal on a tint and I will hook you up. Let me know, Ryan
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 07:54 AM
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intake...

Shiv does not use nor condone the use of an intake so his system is not tuned for such.



Concept Racing has also looked into this...

Evolution VIII ECU appears to have a high level of adaptive programing. This means that it remembers when it has seen knock and other tuning issues until it retests the conditions. This can make tuning the car like hitting a moving target. (I am also not going piggyback because of this)

Adding an intake isn't as easy with the evo as some other cars. It seems to be trying to get the engine back to stock air parameters and fighting with the fact it has more air now. The result appears to be less not more power.

Get an ecu or ecm if you are going to bother with an intake! Just my 2 cents.

Not trying to hurt anyone's sale of intakes but let's be real about what they do on this particular car or explain what needs to be done to get a benefit besides noise.

Mark

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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 03:04 PM
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so how did you get those bolts off the maf? i got one off so far but I can't get the others and I have no air tools
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 03:21 PM
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also how'd you get the clamp off the turbo inlet
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 04:42 PM
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I just put some muscle into the MAF bolts.

I have a very small socket wrench with a handle that can swivle up and down; I reached underneath the inlet pipe and guided the 10mm socket (Regular, not deep) onto it and SLOWLY removed it.
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 07:54 PM
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I goes down to this, it is a turbo car, turbo cars make more power with more Boost and less restriction. The stock intake is restriction, it just is. If your only mod is an Intake, you may lose low end power but gain high end. Moded and tuned for more Boost (say 20PSI to the red and leaned out).


Want more power? Get rid of your exhaust, less restriction on the turbo, more air sucked in and cramed into the motor per revolution and then more fuel added.


This is just the way it is, but without tuning mods don't mean ****.
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 09:03 PM
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heh, I cut the clamp off the turbo inlet (the two bared clamp) since the AEM kit gives you a new clamp for it. and my friend got the bolts off the maf pretty easily by just giving it one quick thrust.

by laws of physics, shouldn't putting in an aftermarket intake help anyway? Someone told me with dsm's, stupid mods like intakes do obsurd amounts of power for what they should be doing.
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 09:21 PM
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Ive messed with my AEM intake a few times now. The filter, as stated before, is absolutely, insanely MASSIVE! But the size of the filter doesn't seem to be the problem. The angle of the suction pipe is the reason we get rubbing. If you push the pipe down, the rubber seal comes unseated from the turbo a bit. Mine was rubbing quite severely, so I reinstalled it and pushed it inn a little more, cut out a small piece of the insulation, and it still rubs a little but not as much. As for the crank case breather hose...what a monsterous ***** of an install if you followed the instructions. You should remove the hose from the crank case entirely, install it onto the AEM pipe, then reconnect it to the crank case AFTER you've installed everything else. The hose will slide right on both ends VERY easily if done this way. If you try to put it on after clamping the pipe to the turbo...good frigging luck...there's no space and no leverage to get it seated properly. BTW, the pictures in the instruction manual were taken on my car, and the filter looks absolutely nothing like the filter that ships with the kit. Crushed or otherwise, it looks like the diameter of the capped end is much smaller.
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 09:55 PM
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intake without tuning...

Want more power? Get rid of your exhaust, less restriction on the turbo, more air sucked in and cramed into the motor per revolution and then more fuel added.


This is just the way it is, but without tuning mods don't mean ****.


EXACTLY MY POINT...

Got to tune if you going to add the intake...

Mark
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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by ricardon
Ive messed with my AEM intake a few times now. The filter, as stated before, is absolutely, insanely MASSIVE! But the size of the filter doesn't seem to be the problem. The angle of the suction pipe is the reason we get rubbing. If you push the pipe down, the rubber seal comes unseated from the turbo a bit. Mine was rubbing quite severely, so I reinstalled it and pushed it inn a little more, cut out a small piece of the insulation, and it still rubs a little but not as much. As for the crank case breather hose...what a monsterous ***** of an install if you followed the instructions. You should remove the hose from the crank case entirely, install it onto the AEM pipe, then reconnect it to the crank case AFTER you've installed everything else. The hose will slide right on both ends VERY easily if done this way. If you try to put it on after clamping the pipe to the turbo...good frigging luck...there's no space and no leverage to get it seated properly. BTW, the pictures in the instruction manual were taken on my car, and the filter looks absolutely nothing like the filter that ships with the kit. Crushed or otherwise, it looks like the diameter of the capped end is much smaller.
Thanks for the info on the breather hose. Now I'm going to have to find a way to fit that little hose on that massive metal nipple on the AEM pipe.

Did you have any issues getting the BOV to sit flush in the AEM pipe? I tried playing with the angle but it kept sitting awkwardly in the hole.
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