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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Upgrading Evo 9 trans to Evo 8 4th and 5th gearing

I currently have an Evo 9 trans in my car which has been built by shep. Don't ask me why I didn't just get the Evo 8 4th and 5th while it was there thats another story.

Reason why I'm upgrading is because I ran at the track 2 weekends ago and even with me loosing traction all of first and some of second I still trapped 120mph in 4th @ 8k. I don't have a built engine and don't plan on building it anytime so getting the Evo 8 4th and 5th gear would be a huge help and fit my power level perfectly.

Anyway like I said I have an Evo 9 trans in my car, but if I had shep put in the Evo 8 4th and 5th it really wouldn't be the Evo 8 4th and 5th because the final drive wouldn't be an Evo 8 right? What would have to be done to get the correct ratios that would put me at approx 130mph in 4th @ 8k.

Sorry I don't really know that much about transmissions and was just curious. What do you guys think?

-thanks
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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u def... DEF need to get that 4th...

i make around 560whp and with my stock 4th i ran out of 4th EVERY TIME at the track... got a shep built tranny (after i broke mine hahaha) and now she pulls hard all the way to the end in 4th.. trapping around 128-131
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:35 PM
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Yeah I know tell me about it. lol
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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think evo 8's that shep does are 3 and 4th,, not 5th, but i might be mistaken.

I'm doign the same thing in about a week or so.. except I'm getting double synchro 5th too.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FastAzzEvo
think evo 8's that shep does are 3 and 4th,, not 5th, but i might be mistaken.

I'm doign the same thing in about a week or so.. except I'm getting double synchro 5th too.
5th is definitely higher already found this out.

I'm getting a double synchro'd 5th as well. Mine was built by shep and now grinds 5th every 5 shifts or so...seems like the synchro is missing a couple teeth. I dunno just getting it built stronger and better.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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You should NOT be using 5th gear to race. You want the Evo 8 3rd and 4th for drag racing and run out 4th crossing the finish. The only possible reason you want the Evo 8 5th gear is for better fuel economy for lower rpms during cruising.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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Double post
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RyuEvoIX
You should NOT be using 5th gear to race. You want the Evo 8 3rd and 4th for drag racing and run out 4th crossing the finish. The only possible reason you want the Evo 8 5th gear is for better fuel economy for lower rpms during cruising.
....I know this your not telling me anything I don't know already.

Now the Evo 9 5th gear is shorter then the Evo 8th 5th gear. They had to shorten it since they shortened the evo 9 4th gear. Thus the Evo 8 should technically be better for fuel economy but I'm not doing it for that reason. The Evo 9 5th is only good for 160 @ 7300ish rpms while the Evo 8th will be doing about 171ish.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by damstr
....I know this your not telling me anything I don't know already.

Now the Evo 9 5th gear is shorter then the Evo 8th 5th gear. They had to shorten it since they shortened the evo 9 4th gear. Thus the Evo 8 should technically be better for fuel economy but I'm not doing it for that reason. The Evo 9 5th is only good for 160 @ 7300ish rpms while the Evo 8th will be doing about 171ish.
If your looking to get an 8 5th gear but not for fuel economy reasons I fail to see your point as to why.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RyuEvoIX
If your looking to get an 8 5th gear but not for fuel economy reasons I fail to see your point as to why.
Standing mile car, or just bragging rights...jk lol
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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IX 4th gear with my tires was 8200 at 119mph trap.

VIII 4th gear is now 7750 at 122 with the same tires.

With the 8 5th you should come out to Nevada for the Silver State next september
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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IX 4th gear with my tires was 8200 at 119mph trap.

VIII 4th gear is now 7750 at 122 with the same tires.

With the 8 5th you should come out to Nevada for the Silver State next september
So you gained 3mph in the 1/4 mile with just changing to the VIII 4th? No power additives or anything like that.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by aka.ralliart15
So you gained 3mph in the 1/4 mile with just changing to the VIII 4th? No power additives or anything like that.
No there were some changes...I am sorry I didnt mean to be misleading, I just was commenting on the gearing difference.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 05:46 AM
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he also lowered the redline to 7750.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 05:58 AM
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so wouldnt switching to the evo 8 5th gear be better for top end then?
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