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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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this thread was created to help people like me on green with all the supporting mods , to see if its worth it to switch to fp red and u r only going to use pump 93 octane , on evereything else the fp red will beat the green , but on PUMP IS what we r looking for results .

any one on a red can teel me the difference in spool compared to the green ???

thanks to everyone supporting this thread and posting results ,
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by gfng
this thread was created to help people like me on green with all the supporting mods , to see if its worth it to switch to fp red and u r only going to use pump 93 octane , on evereything else the fp red will beat the green , but on PUMP IS what we r looking for results .

any one on a red can teel me the difference in spool compared to the green ???

thanks to everyone supporting this thread and posting results ,
i had a grn & went to a red.

WOT spool up & transient spool-up are 2 different animals....being with a change in cam timing, you can get similar boost ramp up during a wot or dyno pull.

transient / initial low boost conditions is lower with the red, but its not bad...I dont want to give up transient response...the red is on the limit for me, when below 3000 rpm...being a bit on the numb side, relative to throttle input.

as far as power goes.....i ran 26/27 psi on 91 oct with the grn.....on the red i easily get away with 28psi through the whole rev range......calculated power numbers show a big gain in power for me.....i will be going on the dyno monday night to get some power #'s......all on 91 octane.

it comes down to the tune & how much boost 1 feels comfortable running.

not sure if this helps you. i will post my dyno numbers when i get them.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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heres my red vs stock IX turbo with stock IC, stock ecu, M2's....in the middle of Aug on a low reading mustang dyno
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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as you can see the spool isnt that noticeable to complain about like everyone else is
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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Shacochis06 - Nice numbers. What PSI is that at? I'll post my graph next week when I get it from CBRD. I was at ~25.5psi
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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What boost levels was this done at?
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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26psi... Just waking it up..

Evo h8 your cars at CBRD rght? How'd it do on pump?
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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With regard to spool of the Green and Red this is what I have seen on the dyno

Evo Green - 2.1Bar at 3500
Evo Red - 2.0Bar at 3700

You really can't notice any difference on the road and the Red holds boost so much better
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by johnd
With regard to spool of the Green and Red this is what I have seen on the dyno</p>
Evo Green - 2.1Bar at 3500
Evo Red - 2.0Bar at 3700


You really can't notice any difference on the road and the Red holds boost so much better
Interesting. Very interesting...
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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anyone know what boost levels can be used on 93 pump on the fp red ????
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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i have all the supporting mods , fully build motor etc,.. but i only plan on using pump on a red , alot of people have been switching to FP RED from a GREEN and have been dissapointed on PUMP , thats why i decided to create this thread to help out peolpe on making the right decitions ..on pump
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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i sure as hell hope im not disappointed i placed my order for the Red last week...and im expecting 400+whp on 93
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Shacochis06
26psi... Just waking it up..

Evo h8 your cars at CBRD rght? How'd it do on pump?
Yeah my car is at CBRD right now getting tuned on E-85.

This past Tuesday I dyno'd 407WHP/345WTQ at CBRD @25psi on pump 93.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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red gives you space to grow. i love mine

i got 430 on pump @ 26psi full bolt ons with a conservative tune. on awdm dyno.
the car was fast. but then compared to being on E85 @30psi no contest.

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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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does anyone have Red numbers on 93 without meth??
as of right now i dont have my meth but i should by the time the Red gets here
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