if you notice people have been giving some reasons why they made suggestions. Care to further explain why the PLX/NGK and why not the uego?

 

Sure.

Threw my personal experiance which spands a few years now. I have not heard a single complaint about the plx or ngk. And I am referring to friends and also customers. I personally used the NGK on my race talon. I raced it a lot and its scene a ton of race gas. The sensor never ever failed me. The readings that it gave matched or cam every close to matching what the sensor on the dyno read.

Now I am using the PLX unit on my evo. Again it is very accurate. My friends use it in their race cars with no issues. Again tons of race gas go in these cars. No issues with sensors failing and no reports of retarded lean issues with the gauges ect.

Now with the aem unit. Lets just say all of my friends that were using them not run plx and ngk.

I bought my talon with the Uego unit. I used race gas in it one time and it killed the sensor. After replacing the sensor it would give me insane reading at idle and wot. I replaced the sensor again and was still having the same issue. 2 of my friends at the time were using the aem units without the gauges and were also getting weird readings.

Fast forward to a few months ago. I was in need one a WB for my daily driver evo. The aem uego units are on sale every where for $218. Nice deal. Well I picked one up and istalled it in my daily driver and from day one it was giving me some lean readings at wot. I mean extremely lean which I knew was not possible. So just to verify what was going on I ordered up a plx non gauge WB. Installed it and bam my a/f was right where it was when I got the car flashed.

So maybe its just my bad luck with the Aem Uego units but I have owned 3 of them and they all have had issues. If you do searches on them on various websites you will see people complain about the readings that it gives. And if you do some searches on the NGK and PLX I highly doubt that you will get the same negative feedback. Also the NGK uses the best O2 sensor of the bunch.

But these are just my opinions. Good luck

 

I've got a PLX DM200 and was considering getting their wideband sensor to run off of it... Do you have any experience with this setup?

 

Thanks for the input. Can you log with the NGK?

From my experience i have never experienced or known anyone to experience an issue with the AEM on various types of gas including Nitromethane injection.

 

I'm about to order up the NGK. Here is a link that answers most questions about it. http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/product...100&country=us

 

You can also consider a Techedge wideband, I think it is one of the better wideband controllers.

 

If you've ever seen a car with a full Zeitronix setup, you'd see how insanely awesome and reliable it is.

 

Yes you can log with the NGK and the PLX. I think you can log with just about all widebands at this point but I can only speak about those that I have personal experiance with.

 

Remy, your the first I've heard that's had problems with the Uego. We've got a lot of experience with those units and have had 0 failures to date (more than 10 installs on different platforms over a period of several years).

EvoScan only directly supports serial logging with AEM/Innovate/Zeitronix.

Are you saying that you can log the NGK wideband by splicing into the rear o2 existing wiring / ECU hack method and putting the math equation in EvoScan to convert the voltage to AFR? I'm just getting clarification for other members who might read this thread and be interested in the NGK unit.

 

Oh no no. I am not saying that at all. I have experiance with the NGK Unit on my dsm. I logged with it via dsmlink. As far as the PLX unit on my evo. I log threw Ecuplus. I DO NOT log with evoscan and I do not use ecuflash.

Sorry for the confusion.

 

Correct you need to splice the Analog output from the NGK into the Rear O2 (or other ADC input on the ECU) and add to XML file accordingly.

This has proven to be very accurate for me at least spot on with the gauge in the car. I could see how former post in this thread may be misleading.

 

So the PLX is not directly compatible with Evoscan or ecuflash?

 

I have innovate wideband i had problem with calibration when I first installed it called innovate and ended up having to send everything back to receive a new one. However after I got the package back I installed with no problems. +1 for innovate.

 

I've had both the AEM and Zeitronix. I never had any problems with either. They seemed to read about the same as far as accuracy goes and response time. I don't have any actual data to back that up or anything. The narrowband simulation/switching of the Zeitronix is nice. I have the lcd display for the zeitronix, which is nice to have different parameters shown at the same time, but they're kinda small. You can get a dedicated gauge for the zeitronix.