I'm sure you have never gone 10 mph over the speed limit

I understand that you're the main vendor for the product and all, but lay off a little bit so you don't sound like such an *** to these people who are just trying to give real world use cases of the products.

 

You can't be serious...I'm sorry I didn't realize you were an angel on the road considering you tune Evos to be illegally fast, knowing they're not going to become strictly "off-road use" only. And would you care to give me a mods list on all your street cars you personally use? I guarantee I'll find something illegal on one of your cars. By the way, did you know it's illegal to modify your exhaust system in any way, shape or form, in Florida? So if you have even a catback, it's VERY ILLEGAL.

So stop trying to push a product and make yourself look way more classy than you really are. Everybody speeds, almost everybody on here is driving an illegal car on the road, and not everybody on here finds coasting in gear and pushing a button to recalibrate s dangerous (I'm sorry you feel that way). You've advertised the fact that you sell this product, terrific. Now let the OP decide what he wants to do rather than reposting in here numerous times, stating that you sell this and trying to profit by shoving post after post down his throat.

Next, stop making false claims about a product that you don't own or sell. I happened to know that your website only shows you selling Zeitronix. Wow, that's not a biased opinion at all!!

Back to the OP, the Zeitronix is great but if your budget is a bit lower, it's not necessary by any means. Any single gauge wideband, like the UEGO and the accurate Innovate will do just fine. I wanted to get the Zeitronix but in the end I saved between $150-200 with the Innovate and a regular boost gauge. Glad I did...

 

Yeah I had the same mentality - for me it didn't work and i ended up paying more in the end but am much happier with the zt2 as every time i start my car i know its working.

Glad the innovate worked for you - but in all honesty it doesn't work like this for everyone and that is the truth.

 

I have had the lc-1 for about 6 months, no problems. I bought it used, so the sensor is not brand new.

When i first installed it, it did not work. Innovate stood behind their product, even though i had bought it used, by sending a new lc-1. I doubt that the original lc-1 was broken, because the problem turned out to be that I did not clear the settings on the gauge (oops!). I wonder how many people who gave up on the lc-1 actually called the innovate support. ???

About calibrating, it is not something that needs to be done all the time , and you can calibrate without removing the sensor (i dont recommend the 80mhp trick). I have not needed to calibrate once.

Zeitronix seems cool, I almost bought one. But remember that wideband sensors aren't a new technology. I would doubt if any major brand is functionally superior than any other (excluding extra features and such).

 

I've had my Zeitronix at the recommendation from others for quite a while now. I actually had an Innovate - twice now. Sold them both before even installing them.

Sure it's a bit more $ for the unit (ZT-2) + the works (EGT sensor, Wideband, Boost 5 bar sensor) with 1 LCD panel displaying

Boost / EGT / AFR / Lambda all of which I've never had to calibrate ever...

vs.

1 wideband that needs calibrating.


I chose the Zeitronix. This unit comes with free logging software and the ability to program in failsafes that trigger alarms or switch things based on certain conditions.. I posted my review on here. Zeitronix was nice enough to put my customer comments on their website.

http://www.zeitronix.com/customers/gallery.htm (Black Evo IX with black wheels / red lip)

http://www.zeitronix.com/press/index.htm

 

There is a reason only the ZEITRONIX widebands are listed on our site.

A quick look over to Innovate's own forum will show why we CHOOSE not to sell their product on our site. Can we sell it? Sure can! Will we list it on the site? Nope. Do we have the time and resources to deal with their non-existant warranty and problems? Nope.

From a quick search on the Innovate's own website, its easy to tell from the first page alone of threads how accurate, reliable the unit is.

How unbiased are the results of Innovate's own customers complaining about malfunctions and failures. These are not my threads. These are threads made by Innovate's own customers and users on their own site. As already stated, we can sell their products, however try not to because we don't want to put our feedback and customer experience at risk over a product with issues.

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/f...ht=malfunction

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/f...ht=malfunction

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/f...ht=malfunction

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/f...ht=malfunction

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/f...ht=malfunction

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/f...ht=malfunction

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/f...ht=malfunction

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/f...ht=malfunction

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/f...ht=malfunction

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/f...ht=malfunction

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/f...ht=malfunction

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/f...ht=malfunction

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/f...ht=malfunction

 

Non-existent warranty, eh? Well that's funny...when I first bought my LC1, it came in with a burnt out LED. Called them up and asked what to do. They told me to use it (since it was in the car already) and then when I have time to take it out, send it and they'll replace it for free. So I used it for a week, sent it in, they sent me a brand new one along with a phone call apologizing. That sounds like warranty to me.

And wow, I doubt you even looked at any of those threads but if you actually cared to read them, 90% are from user error. Improper grounding is a big problem. Funny that I've never had this problem as I made sure I grounded it right the first time. Calibration was the second most common problem here...just the push of a button and you're done.

I already said Zeitronix is a better product but I don't think the price justifies it when you could buy three separate gauges (boost, lambda, egt) for way cheaper.

I'm just trying to give the guy his options rather than shove one product down his throat in an attempt to profit. Let the guy make his own decisions...

 

I am unsure if you have investigated or received a pricing quote from us on a Zeitronix wideband so I am unsure what pricing you are comparing it to since we have not stated a price.

Zeitronix is a modular unit so the base model ZT2 can datalog wideband AFR, RPM, TPS, AUX 0-5v input and Lamba out of the box with its OWN software or evoscan.

Options available for the Zeitronix ZT2 you can upgrade to as you go:

3.5bar map sensor to 35.5psi

5.0 map sensor to 60.3psi

10 bar map sensor to 130.5psi for oil pressure or Brent Rau boost levels

Air intake temp sensor for datalogging

Fluid temperature sensor for coolant, oil, transmission etc.

ZAVT programmable audible and visual alarm / safeguard trigger

Exhaust Gas Temperature probe

 

Unless you're offering the ZT-2 with LCD screen sub-$300, then it's not a price that tickles my fancy and therefore is still more than $100 over what I paid.

But back on topic...because I'm done here. I've given my unbiased opinion.

 

Have AEM and very pleased with it.

 

I had Innovate. It worked fine for a month or so. One day while driving it randomly free calibrated itself. I tried for almost a week to recalibrate the damn thing but no matter what I did it would be WAY OFF (took the sensor out and let it sit for 24 hours and then tried to calibrate it)

Then the gauge went out. I sent it back to innovate and they fixed it. Only problem was that I NOW had to recalibrate the gauge to read AFR. The only way to recalibrate it was through a serial cable. I tried a usb to serial adapter with no go. I seriously can't find a laptop with a serial connection.

Mine is up for grabs. Anyone want it? $100 SHIPPED TO YOUR DOOR.

 

What about the Prosport Wideband kit? How does that compare to the Zeitronix and Innovative options in regards to quality and accuracy?

http://prosportgauges.com/wideband-6...ber/White.aspx

One of the main reasons I've been looking at them is because they offer a 60 mm gauge instead of what seems to be the standard 52 mm.

 

i have the AEM and am very happy with it

 

I have the ProSport boost gauge and I love it. Got it brand new for $25 so I can't complain. Don't have the wideband though so I can't comment firsthand on it but I've heard a lot of people praising them.

It's priced almost exactly the same as the UEGO and Innovate so it's all up to personal preference really. Which display do you like the best? Do you want just the sweeping needle of the PS, the lone LED display of the Innovate, or both with the UEGO?

Friend of mine has the UEGO, he's happy with it and I kinda like how it looks.

 

You cannot datalog it with Evoscan so its worthless for tuning.