We have determined that we could assemble a turbo kit for around $1900 which would include the manifold, turbocharger, O2 housing to bolt to factory location downpipes, oil feed and return lines, waste gate, and dump tube. Turbochargers would be from a reputable manufacturer using garret components, journal bearing and range from 460 to 610hp.

My question is this, would you personally be interested in this turbo kit? We realize there are a lot of options out there from bolt on turbochargers to much more expensive turbo kits utilizing ball bearing turbochargers. Is there a place in this market for a budget turbo kit?

Thank you ahead of time for your input!

Chris Carey

 

For that cheap, hell yes there is!

 

thats pretty close to the fp red and bbk full tomei prices but your getting a whole kit etc. i would have considered this had you had it running when i bought and got my red on monday for sure i would have entertained it and asked questions for a potential sell. I say do it would have lots of intrest and just another choice in the ongoing market of upgrading

 

I think people would be interested if they were willing to sacrifice response for $$$.

 

sounds like a great idea but how much interest is hard to gauge.

 

The problem is that where a journal bearing T3/T4 hybrid with open T3 turbine housing is concerned, just about anything in that category is easily outclassed by the $1800 FP Red turbo, which is a twinscroll drop-in affair capable of well over 500whp, that delivers superior spool characteristics and response to any BB T3/T4 that can match its peak power potential, much less a cheaper journal bearing T3/T4.

As far as the larger journal bearing T3/T4 turbos (e.g. SC61), I recall one such example presented here with a spool penalty so severe that it couldn't even be remotely considered, regardless of price.

So while the price may seem superficially attractive, the drawbacks are significant (if not severe). Perhaps investigating the new BorgWarner Airwerks turbos would present a better option, as it is said that those journal bearing turbos give considerably better response characteristics, but I can neither confirm nor deny that.

 

These were my thoughts as well, but why then would anyone pay closer to $3k for a GT35R kit instead of going the FP Red route? And in regards to the BW turbos we could definitely look into this but the price would skyrocket

 

The answer is partially because the FP Red is a newcomer to the scene. Its arrival suddenly rendered any open housing BB T3/T4 turbo kit for anything less than 530-550whp a comparatively expensive exercise in reduced spool and response anywhere E85 or similarly capable fuel is available.

Justification for a $3k 35R kit mostly comes in a situation where >450whp is desired and only 91-93 octane is available, or, >550whp is desired with high-test fuel.

So the question is if there is a journal bearing T3/T4 that can deliver 35R-like performance at much reduced cost, and if the spool/response penality is not so great that overall performance is inferior to the FP Red. AFAIK, this remains to be demonstrated.

I realize that upgrading the turbo to something better/faster causes the price to 'skyrocket', but that has been the situation for as long as I can remember.

 

Anyone else that might be interested in a kit like this?

 

If you build it they will come.

Srt-4's have their turbo kits in that price range. Well at least back when I had one.

 

We will get some more information up shortly!

 

pictures and testing will help.

 

how about subarus? most of the kits are overprice. Help us out please

 

You wanna talk overpriced?

http://goapr.com/VW/products/stage3_trans20t.html

 

How much for everything minus the turbo? A set up that can bolt to OE downpipe would be nice.