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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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Revolver Cams...Yea or Nea?

Sup yall. Im in the market for cams and I was looking to pick up a pretty agressive set of 272's. I was looking at the Kelford's, GSC S2's, and FP4R's. I have a chance to get a used pair of Revolver cams for a good price. I looked at Revolver's website and I got these specs;

Duration / Intake: 262º
Duration / Exhaust: 264º
Valve Lift / Intake: 11.4 mm
Valve Lift / Exhaust: 11.5mm

Ive heard good things about them but I dont know how they compare with the other cams that I listed above. Im a little turned off because theyre 262/264 and not 272 but I AM THE FIRST TO ADMIT THAT I DONT KNOW A GREAT DEAL ABOUT CAMS. Thanks in advance

1. Is the lift more important in defining a cam than the duration?
2. Anybody have any experience with them?
3. Yea or Nea?
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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heard a car on here a lil while ago with the revolvers in it. that thing sounded sooo incredible. ALOT of lop.

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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 0E3vobutt3r
heard a car on here a lil while ago with the revolvers in it. that thing sounded sooo incredible. ALOT of lop.

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I'm sorry, but are you seriously basing a cam off of how they sound at idle... wow.. just wow...

Anyways, yes these are good cams, they stopped making them.. but they are good for low end, spool, and mid range power... pretty decent up top.. but there are definitely better cams out there like BF 272s or GSC S2's.
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 0E3vobutt3r
heard a car on here a lil while ago with the revolvers in it. that thing sounded sooo incredible. ALOT of lop.

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lol, thats what i keep hearing is that they sound amazing. I just wonder if they are all bark and no bite
thnx for chiming in though
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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And just to let you know.. Lift is DEF. not the only important characteristic that makes a cam "good."
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Anyways, yes these are good cams, they stopped making them.. but they are good for low end, spool, and mid range power... pretty decent up top.. but there are definitely better cams out there like BF 272s or GSC S2's.[/QUOTE]

thanx man. I see that the LIFT on the Revolver's are a little HIGHER than the S2's but will the duration be the deciding factor in power?
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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The advertised duration means nearly nothing (the "272" you're looking for). Don't be misled by their advertised 262/264. Revolvers are very aggressive and have a wide effective duration.

Like many people who ask for cam advice you did not list your mods or goals. At the very least read the cam spec sticky. Chances are they're too much for your setup.

Who cares how much "bad *** lope" a car has if it runs poorly and makes no power?
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Boost3dxEvO
And just to let you know.. Lift is DEF. not the only important characteristic that makes a cam "good."
thanks, you answered that while I was typing.

Anybody else got any info/experience with the Revolvers???
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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OK Mods/Goals...HTA35R or FP RED when my taxes are done. Injectors and AEM EMS are sitting in my garage now. Everything else is already done. EVENTUALLY I will do a built 2.0l but not in the near future.

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Bump for more info on the Revolvers...
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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The revolver is a good cam, i have seen a few cars with them and they had pull like no other, what you need to do is say what then end goal of your car is going to be. That would help in where we can give you advice, IE some cams are great for top end which is where IMO a drag car would live, some people Auto X/Track there car and would need something more in the middle of there powerband, and still other do the highly illegal and stupid freeway pulls( hey we are all guilty of it ). After we have that info we can help ya out a lil more. As for me i have the cosworth M2s on my 04 8 and i love how they give me a lil more top end punch then my stock turbo can give me. They have the lub, lub, lub, that makes them sound good and everyone likes, they are very drivable on the street and once i step into the 35R im looking at from STM it will be some great up top fun for me. Another good thing you can do is talk to your local tuner, im sure he/she will be able to set you straight hope my long winded answer helps you
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by raiceboi697
The revolver is a good cam, i have seen a few cars with them and they had pull like no other, what you need to do is say what then end goal of your car is going to be. That would help in where we can give you advice, IE some cams are great for top end which is where IMO a drag car would live, some people Auto X/Track there car and would need something more in the middle of there powerband, and still other do the highly illegal and stupid freeway pulls( hey we are all guilty of it ). After we have that info we can help ya out a lil more. As for me i have the cosworth M2s on my 04 8 and i love how they give me a lil more top end punch then my stock turbo can give me. They have the lub, lub, lub, that makes them sound good and everyone likes, they are very drivable on the street and once i step into the 35R im looking at from STM it will be some great up top fun for me. Another good thing you can do is talk to your local tuner, im sure he/she will be able to set you straight hope my long winded answer helps you
thnx for the info. I kind of want to do cams one time and do it right you know. I know the S2's, Kelfords, and FP4R's will do the trick but I dont wanna pass up a good deal on a set of used cams. Im not really into autoxing. I will keep it on the track mostly and dd it. I doubt if i will ever want to go bigger than a HTA35R. Lol, i rode in an evo with a built 2.0l and a STANDARD 35R and i thought it was more than enough.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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there are better cams out there now. i wouldn't use them i passed up on two sets. i'm running S2s. if you really want to know about cams call an engine builder. i'm lucky in the fact that i am a mechanic and know people that race and build motors. S2s are better than revolvers. my car lopes and i dont care about that. the only part that i care about is mid to top end. Revolver had quality issues. mostly with the springs but cams too. The BF 272s from what i can gather are similar to the Revolvers but have more lift and duration.

A little word of advice it is better under cam than over cam.

Laramie
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Exciting News
The advertised duration means nearly nothing (the "272" you're looking for). Don't be misled by their advertised 262/264. Revolvers are very aggressive and have a wide effective duration.

Like many people who ask for cam advice you did not list your mods or goals. At the very least read the cam spec sticky. Chances are they're too much for your setup.

Who cares how much "bad *** lope" a car has if it runs poorly and makes no power?

i deisagree strongly on you saying there to much for his setup. i had these cams on stock ecu stock evo 8 ''9.8'' turbo and many many other stock parts and ripped 380hp on pump at 25psi. they make great power for anything smaller then a 35r. it wouldbe the only cam i would ever pick.

as to the posted who said to look at the cam spec thread someone needs to take that over and update it badly as it is very out of date.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by laramie_05MR
there are better cams out there now. i wouldn't use them i passed up on two sets. i'm running S2s. if you really want to know about cams call an engine builder. i'm lucky in the fact that i am a mechanic and know people that race and build motors. S2s are better than revolvers. my car lopes and i dont care about that. the only part that i care about is mid to top end. Revolver had quality issues. mostly with the springs but cams too. The BF 272s from what i can gather are similar to the Revolvers but have more lift and duration.

A little word of advice it is better under cam than over cam.

Laramie
i beg to differ on the s2 thoughts but its opinion based so thats that.

as for bf cams i would not run them on anything smaller then a 35r unless its an fp red runing high boost.

the br cams added 200+rpm of lag over the revolver cams both being installed straight up. bf cams again are great. but i would not even use them on a small setup.
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