If it's an offical fiia hill climb, you are not allower to run anything else than a 2.0L engine, and you have to run a 38mm restrictor. 550 bhp is not that easy. One of the best ways to increase spool / power is to increase the engine CR.

 

I was just adding some input I'm not suggesting the tune, or a bigger motor. I just showing how the 35R affected my Stock 2.0L Motor!! The only thing that was changed was the intake/exhaust manifold, injectors, fuel pump, cams and ECU map. This Dyno is of a 2.0L on 93 pump gas alcky injected with minor modifications.

This is my Old 2007 Setup:




It loves to climb hills!!! It get's mountainous in western MD, and PA. I pulls up them like it's going down, instead of up. I'd say go with the 35R!!

 

Yes, that's all very important but the thread is called "hillclimb Turbo" and not hillclimb mapping or hillclimb setup et cetera

Plus, with 500+ turbocharged hp there will be plenty of torque for everyone.

 

HaHa there is so much BS in this thread its hard to know where to start or even if to bother.

 

Welcome to your first day on the internet.

Have you ever done a hillclimb?

 

I´ve never driven a Hillclimb car. Admittedly, I know next to nothing about this form of racing. At any rate, from here on out, I´ll just keep my yap shut. I will endeavor to read and learn. I am interested in finding out about the types of turbos currently being used in Hillclimb as well as the more popular engine, driveline and suspension setups.

I did make some turbo recommendations based on sheer assumption. But, like I said, I´ll shutup and try to learn. I will be asking questions though.

This form of racing isn´t as widely practised on asphalt in the U.S. as it is in Europe and Britain. Over on LancerRegister there is more information regarding Hillclimb. So maybe I´ll hang out over there for a while. Does anyone have the specific engine build-list for Toni Bueler´s Swedish Hillclimb championship Evo? If so, please be so kind as to post up a link. Thanks!

 

Can you elaborate on this?

I've heard that the Mitsu turbos hold up better than the Garrett 28r when running antilag in rally situations (coming from ACPs team). At PPIHC you probably spend less time on the antilag than at a rally, so would you think it'd be ok...or just playing with fire? Is it the BB center cardridge that doesn't last, so might going to a journal bearing turbo allow for antilag?

Thanks,

Dave

 

To the OP, since your hillclimbs are going to be pretty short, I'd say you'll be able to get away with a pretty aggressive tune. I don't know much about the turbo you're referencing, but if your plans will include using antilag, you may consider using a turbo that's a bit easier to swap out in the pits.

Dave
...oops, might've said too much.

 

Sparky I have a build list. I'll post it in a min.

Dave K. I don't want to speak out of school on this but Garrett will probably tell you that the GT series isn't good with antilag if it's really aggressive. Pinker ran a GT turbo this year I think and it lasted well. Fatbastard on this forum tuned it. You might ask him.

We haven't ever tried to test the boundaries of what will break a turbo and what won't but my cheap PTE turbo is lasting just fine so far (it's a journal bearing) I called PTE (as a digression for a moment) and they said it was "no problem" to run aggressive antilag so we'll probably try that this year.

Bill, my partner here at the shop used to codrive for Ramana and they had the turbine wheel shoot out of the exhaust pipe while running very aggressive antilag on their Galant. That was an old 16g though.

The Tommi Mak' turbo with the TI-aluminide shaft/turbine wheel is the best choice for the stock frame mitsu turbos. Owen Developments has some other specials in the UK and is a lot more knowledgeable than I am on the subject. There is also a 9 turbo with a similar metallic composition that they offer.

Going to find the Buler spec. I know that the guy in UK "Dentist Mapped" has the spec on his site.

 

http://www.dentistmapped.com/featured_cars.php?id=3

Lots of AMS parts.

 

this car was for 2006 championship. Backthen they were allowed to use 2.3L and didnt have to run a restrictor. Not anymore...

 

EE Does the German series require a restrictor? It doesn't look like it.

 

 

Thanks for the build sheet Bimmster I wonder what the static c.r. is? I imagine that it is the standard ratio used by AMS in their RR builds. Whatever that is?

Also, wonder which Pipers he's running...the 290's or what? I read what they are over on LancerRegister....but I forgot. I think some sort of "R" grind????

Finally, I wonder what boost level he sets it at on Race Day. Does sequential gearbox mean "dogbox", or paddleshifter? Sorry for the nuance.

P.S. His particular AMS engine build looks like nothing extra special, above and beyond the standard, high-quality AMS build. Nothing out of the ordinary.

Where the HP is listed it is categorized as "PS", does that mean WHP or flywheel?

 

I'm not sure about each country... here in Lebanon we follow the fia regualtions, which are international and i'm pretty sure are followed in all Europe.

As I know it, starting in 2007 (or 2008 i'm not sure) the fia changed the regulations for the "prototype" category in the hill climb...