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if your going with a busher stroker motor, wy not stay with a bushur turbo??? i vote 37r or 35r keep the power there on a 2.3, if it was a 2.0 i would say the Red set-up,
but no man stay with the 35r or 37r. i like the 37r's in action, great turbo
but no man stay with the 35r or 37r. i like the 37r's in action, great turbo
send in the old For HTA conversion, Go with HTA 37R or whatever you want. Really anything you get will be great, I am just installing my HTA 35R with a 2.3L Here is a pic, good luck, I think about the Rev limit VS air flow, VS power made, think I am just going to rev max to 7000 for along time. will see what happens. Your going to be 550-600 WHP with alot of those, red is going to run out of air I bet, will be alright though.
I think the Shearer, EPM 02, and the FP RED is a great choice...if you have access to E85 or don't have a problem running a good meth like aquamist. Running 9's I'm assuming is plenty of speed for yeah! If you don't have e85 or don't want to run meth the HTA86 is proven to be a pretty awesome turbo with Buschur and 9sec9 seeing excellent results. The precision 850r or 6262 has not been to reliable. Sharkbite has gone through a couple of them already. Hopefuly the 950r is better but your not going to get anywhere even close to Red like spool even with a 2.3.
I think the Shearer, EPM 02, and the FP RED is a great choice...if you have access to E85 or don't have a problem running a good meth like aquamist. Running 9's I'm assuming is plenty of speed for yeah! If you don't have e85 or don't want to run meth the HTA86 is proven to be a pretty awesome turbo with Buschur and 9sec9 seeing excellent results. The precision 850r or 6262 has not been to reliable. Sharkbite has gone through a couple of them already. Hopefuly the 950r is better but your not going to get anywhere even close to Red like spool even with a 2.3.
Few things.
First, I think that going with a larger turbo because you are now using a stroker crank is a bad idea. What you gain in torque(low rpm grunt), you will lose in the ability to rev the motor (increased piston speed) So although you can spool the turbo say arbitrarily, ~500rpm sooner, you will loose more than that in your ability to rev high because of the increased piston speed of the stroker crank.
Second, I've seen you post for some time, ever since before you had the 35R and it seems like you like a fast street car, but are not a serious drag racer. From that aspect I would stay with a smaller turbo. Stock frame turbo's are putting out incredible power and I'm doubting that you would be dissatisfied with ~550whp from a red. Small turbos are a lot more fun on the street. Large turbos get you in trouble, because to really enjoy them you need to go fast, really fast. Drag strip aside, I had just as much, if not more fun (when not racing) with my stock turbo as I did my HTA because it was such a blast in 1-3 gears. The HTA was fun on the top of third and fourth was an absolute blast, but to have your fun in 4th, your looking at going around 130+/- which is wayyy too fast for the street.
Last, I know you're a young guy. I'm talking from experience when I say, although having tons of sweet parts is great, when its all said and done you may be happier going a cheaper route and being able to spend money on other things or even save it. I'm still pretty young and I've blown all the money I've ever had on my cars, and I'm just now starting to understand the big picture. Just food for thought.
With that said, I'd say sell the 35R. Pickup a red, run a stock ported manifold and have one hell of a car on a relative, and I stress relative, budget.
First, I think that going with a larger turbo because you are now using a stroker crank is a bad idea. What you gain in torque(low rpm grunt), you will lose in the ability to rev the motor (increased piston speed) So although you can spool the turbo say arbitrarily, ~500rpm sooner, you will loose more than that in your ability to rev high because of the increased piston speed of the stroker crank.
Second, I've seen you post for some time, ever since before you had the 35R and it seems like you like a fast street car, but are not a serious drag racer. From that aspect I would stay with a smaller turbo. Stock frame turbo's are putting out incredible power and I'm doubting that you would be dissatisfied with ~550whp from a red. Small turbos are a lot more fun on the street. Large turbos get you in trouble, because to really enjoy them you need to go fast, really fast. Drag strip aside, I had just as much, if not more fun (when not racing) with my stock turbo as I did my HTA because it was such a blast in 1-3 gears. The HTA was fun on the top of third and fourth was an absolute blast, but to have your fun in 4th, your looking at going around 130+/- which is wayyy too fast for the street.
Last, I know you're a young guy. I'm talking from experience when I say, although having tons of sweet parts is great, when its all said and done you may be happier going a cheaper route and being able to spend money on other things or even save it. I'm still pretty young and I've blown all the money I've ever had on my cars, and I'm just now starting to understand the big picture. Just food for thought.
With that said, I'd say sell the 35R. Pickup a red, run a stock ported manifold and have one hell of a car on a relative, and I stress relative, budget.
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Few things.
First, I think that going with a larger turbo because you are now using a stroker crank is a bad idea. What you gain in torque(low rpm grunt), you will lose in the ability to rev the motor (increased piston speed) So although you can spool the turbo say arbitrarily, ~500rpm sooner, you will loose more than that in your ability to rev high because of the increased piston speed of the stroker crank.
Second, I've seen you post for some time, ever since before you had the 35R and it seems like you like a fast street car, but are not a serious drag racer. From that aspect I would stay with a smaller turbo. Stock frame turbo's are putting out incredible power and I'm doubting that you would be dissatisfied with ~550whp from a red. Small turbos are a lot more fun on the street. Large turbos get you in trouble, because to really enjoy them you need to go fast, really fast. Drag strip aside, I had just as much, if not more fun (when not racing) with my stock turbo as I did my HTA because it was such a blast in 1-3 gears. The HTA was fun on the top of third and fourth was an absolute blast, but to have your fun in 4th, your looking at going around 130+/- which is wayyy too fast for the street.
Last, I know you're a young guy. I'm talking from experience when I say, although having tons of sweet parts is great, when its all said and done you may be happier going a cheaper route and being able to spend money on other things or even save it. I'm still pretty young and I've blown all the money I've ever had on my cars, and I'm just now starting to understand the big picture. Just food for thought.
With that said, I'd say sell the 35R. Pickup a red, run a stock ported manifold and have one hell of a car on a relative, and I stress relative, budget.
First, I think that going with a larger turbo because you are now using a stroker crank is a bad idea. What you gain in torque(low rpm grunt), you will lose in the ability to rev the motor (increased piston speed) So although you can spool the turbo say arbitrarily, ~500rpm sooner, you will loose more than that in your ability to rev high because of the increased piston speed of the stroker crank.
Second, I've seen you post for some time, ever since before you had the 35R and it seems like you like a fast street car, but are not a serious drag racer. From that aspect I would stay with a smaller turbo. Stock frame turbo's are putting out incredible power and I'm doubting that you would be dissatisfied with ~550whp from a red. Small turbos are a lot more fun on the street. Large turbos get you in trouble, because to really enjoy them you need to go fast, really fast. Drag strip aside, I had just as much, if not more fun (when not racing) with my stock turbo as I did my HTA because it was such a blast in 1-3 gears. The HTA was fun on the top of third and fourth was an absolute blast, but to have your fun in 4th, your looking at going around 130+/- which is wayyy too fast for the street.
Last, I know you're a young guy. I'm talking from experience when I say, although having tons of sweet parts is great, when its all said and done you may be happier going a cheaper route and being able to spend money on other things or even save it. I'm still pretty young and I've blown all the money I've ever had on my cars, and I'm just now starting to understand the big picture. Just food for thought.
With that said, I'd say sell the 35R. Pickup a red, run a stock ported manifold and have one hell of a car on a relative, and I stress relative, budget.
Boltz, You sound like my friend Mike (CO_VR4) on here.. I would run a RED on my car if I ran E85 or race gas every day.. but for just pump gas 93, the RED doesn't make enough power to suit my needs... If you are going to run E85 or race gas every day.. get a RED, but if you are going to do just pump gas.. do HTA3582 or HTA3586.. Preferably Buschur/Shearer Kit.. Also, the 6262 is the same an 850r.. the 850r just has an anti surge garrett housing (similar to tial), while the basic 6262s have the drilled holes in the compressor cover..
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I understand where both of you are coming from. The only thing I would have to say is that the only reason I see the red being a less potent pump gas turbo is first of all more restriction on the turbine side and second, because it is not as efficient, a higher intake charge.
Seeing as you have a fantastic intercooler, you should be able to push pretty high boost on pump gas with your setup (but not 550 like I stated earlier).
Last thought, I see in your sig you have AEM METH KIT listed, knowing that you can *obviously* pump out race gas power all day with pump/meth.
Wait, one more. In all honesty, twin scroll rocks. Aftermarket twin scroll turbo kit prices do not. Sell the 35R, get the red and a stock ported manifold and boost the crap out of it. With meth thats a 500ft/lb, mid ten second street car. Big turbos are lots of fun at the drag strip and on paper, but you'll be the happiest with the smallest turbo that will suit your power goals.
The rest is up to you
I understand where both of you are coming from. The only thing I would have to say is that the only reason I see the red being a less potent pump gas turbo is first of all more restriction on the turbine side and second, because it is not as efficient, a higher intake charge.
Seeing as you have a fantastic intercooler, you should be able to push pretty high boost on pump gas with your setup (but not 550 like I stated earlier).
Last thought, I see in your sig you have AEM METH KIT listed, knowing that you can *obviously* pump out race gas power all day with pump/meth.
Wait, one more. In all honesty, twin scroll rocks. Aftermarket twin scroll turbo kit prices do not. Sell the 35R, get the red and a stock ported manifold and boost the crap out of it. With meth thats a 500ft/lb, mid ten second street car. Big turbos are lots of fun at the drag strip and on paper, but you'll be the happiest with the smallest turbo that will suit your power goals.
The rest is up to you
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^Pure and Boost3d;
I understand where both of you are coming from. The only thing I would have to say is that the only reason I see the red being a less potent pump gas turbo is first of all more restriction on the turbine side and second, because it is not as efficient, a higher intake charge.
Seeing as you have a fantastic intercooler, you should be able to push pretty high boost on pump gas with your setup (but not 550 like I stated earlier).
Last thought, I see in your sig you have AEM METH KIT listed, knowing that you can *obviously* pump out race gas power all day with pump/meth.
Wait, one more. In all honesty, twin scroll rocks. Aftermarket twin scroll turbo kit prices do not. Sell the 35R, get the red and a stock ported manifold and boost the crap out of it. With meth thats a 500ft/lb, mid ten second street car. Big turbos are lots of fun at the drag strip and on paper, but you'll be the happiest with the smallest turbo that will suit your power goals.
The rest is up to you
I understand where both of you are coming from. The only thing I would have to say is that the only reason I see the red being a less potent pump gas turbo is first of all more restriction on the turbine side and second, because it is not as efficient, a higher intake charge.
Seeing as you have a fantastic intercooler, you should be able to push pretty high boost on pump gas with your setup (but not 550 like I stated earlier).
Last thought, I see in your sig you have AEM METH KIT listed, knowing that you can *obviously* pump out race gas power all day with pump/meth.
Wait, one more. In all honesty, twin scroll rocks. Aftermarket twin scroll turbo kit prices do not. Sell the 35R, get the red and a stock ported manifold and boost the crap out of it. With meth thats a 500ft/lb, mid ten second street car. Big turbos are lots of fun at the drag strip and on paper, but you'll be the happiest with the smallest turbo that will suit your power goals.
The rest is up to you
.. So i need a straight pump gas car
Ahhh.
Well, its all up to you. You obviously want a big turbo. Cheapest route is HTA35R considering your current setup. I highly doubt you'll need more power than that has to offer.
GL
Well, its all up to you. You obviously want a big turbo. Cheapest route is HTA35R considering your current setup. I highly doubt you'll need more power than that has to offer.
GL