Since you already have a tubular stock flanged manifold, I'd suggest going with a somewhat unique option. ATP makes a divided T3 adapter for stock type manifolds. Pick up one of those and use it with a Borg Warner S362 in the divided T3 hotside. It'll outflow and outspool a 35r. There are plenty of shops in the area that can fab an o2 housing/downpipe for it.

http://gvautosport.com/catalog/produ...roducts_id=188

http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...gory_Code=VEVO

 

Maybe you need to start smoking in order to see which is truthfully better. A regular 35r so far is averaging less than a red on most cars. Not to mention a red spools a hell of a lot sooner than a 35r, especially compared to a crappy ATP kit.

 

well .... as my luck goes , my green blew tonight... split the impeller shaft in two... nasty sh*t! i swore to myself the next time my car was off the road for a little while i'd pull the motor... due to lack of $$$ i currently have i will probably not change the stroke... im thinking some manely rods and cp pistons, bearings , oil pump , and bring the crank to the machine shop to get checked out...

since i'll be keeping it a 2.0 i was planing to spool the larger than average turbo with a wet fogger (50-75hp shot)....(keep in mind that this is a drag use car with minimal street driving) now before everyone chews me out about the no2, let me just say ...... if your going to just talk sh*t about spray cuz you've had no experience with it , or some friend of a friend put a 100shot on a button in his grandmas crown vic and blew the motor, i really dont need to hear what you have to say..thanks... but if you have some real insight about the topic i would love to know what you think...

is spooling a gt35r (or similar sized turbo) on a 2.0L with a wet fogger going to be a power making combo, or is the RED still my best bet?

 

With the kind of driving you intend to do (drag racing) with NO2, then a really nice 35R kit would be the way to go IMHO....Call Buschur, AMS, ETS, et al and you'll be happy.

 

You act like a 35r is a large enough turbo that needs a handicap to help it spool. Nitrous has been ruled out of the evo world for years now and instead of being ignorant to all of our members you should learn to listen and maybe take the time to read. You definitely sound like a honda guy and need to understand that what works on one car doesn't do so well on another. I believe that it is safe to say that we have tested every configuration and found two dominating setups at the moment and taking the time to read a couple out of the hundred red or HTA35r threads you would figure out exactly what fits your needs.

 

well who has tested a built 2.0L w/ spray with an hta35.????? if your not leading , your following ... and like i said if your just going to spit out uneducated responses , i really dont need to hear what you have to say.... im sure there is plenty 600hp 2.0L hta35.'s running around , but whats wrong with trying something different ???

 

ATP kits have always been garbage, if your going to buy a 35r you should spend the money and do it right. The red seems like a great turbo, do the research and see which turbo fits your needs.

 

You're right I have no idea what I am talking about. Especially coming from a built Trans Am with a 300 shot. Those motors loved spray but these don't. Every shop that has ran it had nothing but bad like and I am sure they were a little more qualified than you are with these vehicles. But hey man since you are a leader good luck with NOS and a bad *** ATP kit. I am sure you will show us all up.

 

its not about showing people up there buddy.... being that the no2 kit is already installed its too late to go back.... and the person tuning my car seems to think its a fine idea(cuz i mean sean ivey has no idea what hes doing, right???) ur kinda just spining tires here ... to each their own, right??? and btw i was only asking about the atp kit, wasnt ever a sure thing tuff guy... its obvious you get off runing your mouth on forums ... go make another 1000 posts, i'll be working on my broken *** car..FTW!!!

 

I run my mouth at you because instead of you listening to people you insult them and continue to do what you want. You obviously don't know how to research a vehicle before you start ****ing it up. I have personally been working on Evo's since 04 so I do think I have a better grasp on what is good for this vehicle better than you and since I am a year away from becoming a mechanical engineer I am sure I have you beat aspect of cars. Did I personally have nitrous failure in my car or have used it? The answer is no, but I have read many horror stories from shops and the last thing I would want to do is blow a motor with nitrous that really doesn't make more power than alternative methods that have been proven. I will give you an example. Ask Scott@TTP how well nitrous worked in his car. As much as I hate to say it but he has probably tuned more evo's than anyone on here and more than your tuner Ivey. Not saying Ivey doesn't know what he is doing but considering a tuner knows his car best and not even himself could not pop his motor. The motor will not blow immediately and could last for a bunch of races but that is only if you rarely use it and lets be honest you are going to push that button every time you get in that car. If you have money and don't care about rebuilding your motor every once and awhile then that is fine but you obviously don't because you are looking into the cheapest kit available and guessing it will make loads of power.

 

? Logic ?

 

i too have been work on these wonderful vehicles we call dsm's since 04, prob earlier (no schooling for engineering here tho...if you couldn't tell??? just shop time) but its really not the matter of whos got the years...as for my beat aspect of cars, lol i guess what i put together so far is really beat???not my first nitrous car , just my first nitrous evo... my original route was going to " push the green to it limits on what i would consider a street car" is why the kits on my car ... my intentions were never to build a nitrous dependent car... only as a small power adder(35-75hp)i do occasionally street race... and then ,draw of the cards my turbo takes a sh*t... is the only reason i evan asked about the atp kit and peoples experience with it, was to further my knowledge (sorry the noobs not going to sit in front of the computer all day, and search year old threads), it was never a sure thing. just curious about a turbo you dont hear much about, and i know why now..hta35.,fpred, or fs635 is whats bouncing in my head now. im not to sure what YOU dont get this thread was started to ask advice... calling people you dont know ignorant is not the advice i need thanks...

im sure your a very intelligent person, good luck with your engineering degree...
just chill the f*ck back man its just a forum

p.s. the nitrous is controlled by the aem ems, no buttons here...

 

omg... i only asked about the atp kit...
so over it, i swear...

 

35r 2.3 is a great combo.... i should know... i have one

Go for .82 rear housing if you want max power.... 1.06 rear doesnt seem to make much more peak power and has more lag. .82 on 2.3 for power.... .63 like me if you want good daily driving spool ect. Still ~450whp on DD (not DynoJet fictional BS numbers), high 10sec pass no worries on pump fuel with high 20s boost. E85 and 2bar hello 500whp+++ easy

 

The atp kit is garbage I said that... but you are telling me the red is better than the 35r because it spools faster ? And who the hell ues a regular 35r anymore . The HTA35r is the new regular 35r last time I checked. Do your research.


To the OP its up to you and your goals. Do you want a nice street car or do you want a monster street car lol.

Good luck